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the spoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8th

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1947.

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying bist has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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threat

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening fade to black

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bespoke radio for

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the messes

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yeah how you doing

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how you doing today is wednesday

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february 17

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2021 48 days into the new year

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only 317 days left

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown burbank

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california and i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro

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back and forth up and down east and west

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north and

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south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kg are

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a the planet i'm yours jimmy church

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what is cracking how you doing

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all right what an amazing

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week on fade to black it just don't get

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no better

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great show last night richard dodie

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everybody talking about that show last

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night but tonight's

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it's all ghosts all night long

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sheree and tony rathman are here

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evpi that's right

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ghost hunting all night long now tonight

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i want everybody to get ready for this

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and if uh

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if you don't have the ability we are

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going to have uh we've got some

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images that we're going to be showing

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tonight that will be

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over on twitter so uh get ready for that

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follow me on twitter at jchurchradio

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f2b is the sandbox but uh they'll be in

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the sandbox

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uh maybe i'll bust them out over on

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breaking ufo too as well

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but they will certainly be in my feed at

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church radio and check that out

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and also tonight um now i'm lucky

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because i got the preview

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we will be playing some evps

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that's right now uh

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not really a spoiler alert because we'll

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be talking about this all night on the

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uh tony and sheree uh did

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uh an investigation this past sunday

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valentine's day and uh

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amazing night because

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a bunch of these evps were recorded

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this past sunday february 14th i got to

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all right now more on this when they

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at the bottom of the hour uh tony and

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um incredible incredible i and i was

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and i said man sounds like you guys had

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a pretty good time on sunday and he's

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it was amazing obviously all right so

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more on all of that and what evps are

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okay so that is tonight tony and sheree

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are here tomorrow night is another fader

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night with open lines all night long

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and then uh i think rita gave me the

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to do a little bit of a sneak peek for

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next week but uh tomorrow night is

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fader night and then you know what i'm

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gonna disclose next week tomorrow night

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on the show i was about to do it right

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nah nah we'll do that tomorrow night

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okay because friday saturday and sunday

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the conscious life expo now um and also

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and she's great and she'll be hosting

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and uh everything kicks off friday

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now you wanna go to conscious

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consciouslifeexpo.com and

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if you don't have the ability to type i

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get that go over to jimmychurchradio.com

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we've got all the links up that you need

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uh to go and get the schedule get the

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tickets check out the speakers and get

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because things kick off friday morning

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and we'll be working all weekend friday

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saturday and sunday hanging out with all

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it uh the fun never stops over here okay

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i just want to remind everybody

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it is friday february 19th

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20th and 21st the conscious life

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expo all right all right follow me on

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twitter at j church radio it's what you

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f2b i'm so scared

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sarah and that's good that's good

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that is good that's funny it's funny i

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that's good two third stone studios um

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uh johnny ricardo that one's uh that

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one's an interesting one

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if you want to see all the gifts that

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everybody post

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uh right as the show starts and i'm

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there's a lot oh also i'm gonna jump in

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and say uh if you don't follow

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um ads brad harris you know brad harris

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our photographer here and

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and good friend you know no longer

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just a family member uh brad and

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but he happens to be our photographer

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too as well anyway

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perfectly on the grill and i and my

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right below it it says

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show was canceled we're driving down

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to enjoy your grill fest

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brad that's just not cool man you can't

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you can't post that stuff not not in my

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not right before the show can't do it

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let's get this show cracking let's get

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to the breaking news

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and uh now okay i'm just gonna i'm gonna

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lay this right out

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okay this was the headline

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dinosaurs have been wiped out

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dinosaurs may have been wiped out by a

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comet what what are they talking about

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here the asteroid didn't happen

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theorized that a piece of a comet

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crashed into the earth over 66 million

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to create the chick club crater

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the chicksaleb crater is located on the

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of modern day mx and then i stopped

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an asteroid it's a comet now i continued

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reading that's a misleading headline

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the impact that created the crater is

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extinction event which killed off

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dinosaurs and many other species

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same time same event

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what's the big deal what are you writing

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who cares well the headline got me to

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well done moving on love dalen a

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genetics at the center for paleogenetics

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million years ago previously this is big

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previously the oldest known sequenced

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wide margin by about 500 000 years now

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the oldest

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huge news incredible all right well it's

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tomorrow nasa's next mars rover

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will have a squad of spacecraft

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watching its dangerous descent tomorrow

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on february 18th

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orbiters right now around mars from nasa

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and its european counterpart

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will support the landing and some of

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these spacecraft will continue to send

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from perseverance during the rover's

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adventures on the surface of the red

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the european space agency runs two

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spacecraft that will watch the landing

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the esa ross cosmos exomars trace gas

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will send data back to earth as early as

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after landing while the agency's nasa's

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mars express has focused on local

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at the landing site gizero crater

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i want to remind everybody that nasa

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coverage of the landing all of this

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kicking off tomorrow nasa tv

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broadcast for mission control starts

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tomorrow february 18th at 11

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15 a.m pacific time

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touchdown in the gizero crater on mars

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pacific time get your popcorn ready

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that's gonna be huge let's get the show

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crack and happy birthday to

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today paris hilton

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harris hilton is 40.

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not buying it but there you go paris

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hilton is 40.

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joseph gordon levitt today

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is also 40. starting

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inception starred in looper

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starred in snowden that's right he

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played snowden in snowden

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and he was also in the dark knight rises

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i i

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i there was rita and i were

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watching him a couple of weeks ago in

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another movie i can't remember what it

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was

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is that is that him and we looked at

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it's like two different people

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two different two different people then

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i went and watched

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looper right after that and uh rita

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wasn't around i did this

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uh i did this alone watched looper i was

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in the mood for time travel

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watch looper and i'm looking at him and

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i'm like that's a different guy

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i had to double check an imdb joseph

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gordon lovett today is 40 years old

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denise richards the one and only denise

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richards today is 50

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and of course she played carmen ibanez

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in starship troopers green day front man

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and guitarist billy joel

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armstrong today is 49 and

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the one and only the legend

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the icon blackfoot's ricky medlock

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today is 71. he's now he's like

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the dude in leonard skynyrd i bet you

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didn't know that

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our dead guy's birthday today is

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kwarthon

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that's right 1966 to 2004 died at the

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age of 38. gorthon changed the world

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korthon was a singer songwriter musician

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and a record producer

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he was one of the founders as well as

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the soul

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songwriter of the band bathory

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which pioneered the black metal genre

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and is credited with creating the viking

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metal style absolutely an

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incredible musician korthon wrote the

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music and lyrics on

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all of bathory's 15 albums

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and performed vocals and guitars on

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those

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15 albums he also did like three or four

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solo records that were pretty good too

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as well

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on june 3rd 2004 kwarthon was found dead

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in his apartment in stockholm

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sweden the cause of his death was a

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congenital

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heart defect he was just 38 years old

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changed the world incredible happy

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birthday kwarathon on this day in

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history

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otd 1996. i talked about the first half

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of this

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last week today was the finale

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gary kasparov defeats ibm's deep blue

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four games to two however

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the celebration was short because deep

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blue defeats kasparov in a heavily

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publicized rematch

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the following year

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humans have never caught up fader fact

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here you go didn't know this i swear

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i didn't know this and you didn't either

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fortune cookies are an american

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thang they were invented in san

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francisco

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in the 1890s and sold at the golden gate

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parks

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japanese tea garden yeah

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and that that's why i thought i was

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japanese all the way

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full tilt boogie they are not

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today very special guest sheree and tony

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rathman are here

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we had to reschedule uh sheree and tony

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because

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uh last month we had uh a power outage

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uh the morning of their show which was

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that night and

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the entire valley uh here in much of los

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angeles uh was without power we're in

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the middle of a massive

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windstorm and uh so the reschedule for

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tonight which is great but this is

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what's crazy

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the wind started last night again

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and i was thinking to myself here

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we go and there were power outages uh

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nothing uh in burbank uh we're clear

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we're all good

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but with everything else that's going

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across the country right texas without

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power

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you know the winter storm going across

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the united states heading up into the

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northeast and

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there's no there's no break in the

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action and right now in texas they're

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saying hey you know we don't know and

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and i was reading the news today that

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texas

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was just like a hair away

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from a total breakdown of the entire

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grid in texas they got close

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25 right now without power in the state

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of texas crazy

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all right let's get to this river moon

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coffee

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i'm gonna do this right now what's that

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dry scale man that's a gif

401
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iced tea no ice cube

402
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ice cube on the front porch that's when

403
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he smokes the weed with

404
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smokey and he looks at smoking smoke

405
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ice cube

406
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that's funny stuff man i love friday

407
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rivermoonwellness.com

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the coffee is of course fade to blacks

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i've got three ghost stories

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three just three that's all i got

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and two of them involve tony and sheree

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how crazy is that and that's because we

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did the queen mary

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event together a few months ago and

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um and so we were you know we had a huge

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team that was on the boat one of the

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uh uh events happened

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with uh tony and sheree directly

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uh tony really directly

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now both tony and sheree are with us

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tonight

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and i'm sure at some point we're going

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to talk about the voice that we heard

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we were all there cherie was sitting

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next

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to tony to his right to my left

427
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tony was directly in front of me uh

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sheree was uh over here and

429
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uh we were all there when it happened

430
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um but this is the thing when the voice

431
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did its thing

432
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it was tony who i looked at

433
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he was right there and he was sitting

434
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directly in front of me

435
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and the look on his face was priceless

436
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he was like and and i know

437
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it was probably the same look i had at

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that moment

439
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and i bring this up because tonight

440
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we'll be listening to a bunch of vvps

441
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and some of them are from their most

442
00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:08,240
recent ghost hunting

443
00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:10,320
adventure that was uh this past

444
00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:11,440
valentine's day

445
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more on that when they join us at the

446
00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:14,960
bottom of the hour but

447
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:17,440
evps are one thing because i look at

448
00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:18,080
them

449
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:20,720
like uh two different things because we

450
00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:22,320
have spirit boxes

451
00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:25,760
right and then uh which i you know

452
00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:28,880
do we classify that as an evp i i i do

453
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we'll talk to tony and sheree about this

454
00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:31,280
but

455
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:39,520
disembodied voices that are

456
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:43,440
caught from somewhere out there

457
00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:46,559
just caught right in the ether

458
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:49,679
electronically and i love them

459
00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:52,080
and i listen to them every chance that i

460
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:53,440
get

461
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:55,600
but what we heard that night on the

462
00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:57,440
queen mary

463
00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:01,360
wasn't really an evp it was an

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spoken audible real

465
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:11,360
not something that you don't hear at the

466
00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:12,720
moment and you go back and you're

467
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:13,600
listening and

468
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:16,159
and you have to amplify and you analyze

469
00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:17,760
and i i love that stuff

470
00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:19,120
i love it because you catch it in the

471
00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:20,960
background and you you amble and you're

472
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:22,880
like oh man something was reaching

473
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and i love that stuff i do

474
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but what we heard was

475
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in fact i was able to experience

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something like this

477
00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:41,679
um which is something that i i'll never

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00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:43,279
forget

479
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:45,440
that that i was there i caught this i

480
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experienced this i

481
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:49,840
heard it it was truly an an

482
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extraordinary moment

483
00:23:58,390 --> 00:23:56,000
now my only ghost sighting

484
00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:58,400
was kind of the same thing and it just

485
00:24:02,950 --> 00:24:00,159
got me thinking today because i was

486
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:02,960
like okay you know what really i've only

487
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,080
had those three events

488
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:06,720
two of them were with with tony and

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sheree and

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and the other one was kind of the same

491
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thing

492
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in that it was real

493
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:19,200
the ghost wasn't a mist it wasn't

494
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something caught with infrared or flare

495
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technology or night vision or anything

496
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no

497
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it was an actual face a real

498
00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:30,559
face and that to me is different now

499
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i'm not going to tell the story again

500
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right now we've all heard it so many

501
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times before

502
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but what i saw was

503
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physical the curtains were pulled back

504
00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:44,000
intentionally and the face was right

505
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:44,880
there

506
00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:48,159
looking at me i could see it it was

507
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real so real that i went up to the door

508
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and waited for whoever was there to open

509
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it

510
00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:07,190
you know the feeling that you get when

511
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you know somebody is home but they're

512
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just not answering the door

513
00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:14,720
you know that feeling man and you get

514
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:16,240
pissed off

515
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:19,520
you know what i'm talking about that was

516
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the feeling i had

517
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when the door didn't open that night

518
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i knew that they knew that i knew

519
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that they were there so

520
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after the door didn't open when it was

521
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supposed to

522
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i knocked and i didn't knock because i

523
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was being polite

524
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i knocked because i was mad

525
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:45,919
you just don't let a friend stand on

526
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your front porch

527
00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:50,880
looking like an idiot but i guess that

528
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uh

529
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:54,080
ghosts don't have manners at least this

530
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:55,200
one didn't

531
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but but after so many years

532
00:26:02,149 --> 00:26:00,559
you know to go back and think about this

533
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:02,159
experience i

534
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:05,440
know how unique it really was i

535
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:09,360
saw a real ghost not casper not a misty

536
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:10,080
thing not

537
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:12,000
something out of the corner of my eye

538
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:14,240
not something in the dark not second

539
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:15,440
guessing like

540
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:18,880
oh wonder what that was no

541
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:25,520
i saw an actual face check me out this

542
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:28,080
like the voice that we heard on the

543
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:29,039
queen mary

544
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:32,240
it was real i know

545
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:34,559
now how lucky i am to be able to share

546
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:36,159
this with all of you because

547
00:26:40,149 --> 00:26:39,520
it happened now probably the strangest

548
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:40,159
thing of

549
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:43,679
all you know about that night

550
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:46,640
was that when chris and i my friend that

551
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:48,640
was there with us

552
00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:50,720
uh unlocked the front door and burst

553
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:52,000
into the house we were

554
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:54,720
expecting to find an intruder somebody

555
00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:56,320
robbing the place

556
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:58,720
tensions were high the adrenaline was

557
00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:00,000
pumped

558
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:03,600
but nobody was hiding inside the home

559
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:05,520
now as i went back and i stood at the

560
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:07,440
window and i pulled back the curtains uh

561
00:27:10,390 --> 00:27:09,520
to the side and looking out the window

562
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:10,400
like the face

563
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:13,760
did earlier i knew at that point

564
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:16,400
it must have been a ghost and it was a

565
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:17,840
trippy feeling

566
00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:20,960
because it was the real deal

567
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:22,880
today i truly know how special that

568
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:24,000
event was

569
00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:26,240
and just like anything else that we talk

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about each night on fade to black

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i know that there was so much more to

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the story

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and how little we know about the

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phenomenon

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we need investigators like tony and

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sheree to help us find the answers

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you know and and that's why this show is

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so important

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they are out there investigating they

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are out there doing the hunt they are

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looking for ghosts they're trying to

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figure this out

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they build the tech they design the tech

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they've got

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very very special gear and equipment

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that they take

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out there with them trying to figure

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things out

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and i cannot wait for this show tonight

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it is going to be great

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seriously all right now i want to remind

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everybody tomorrow night's fader night

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friday is the conscious life expo i need

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you to go to consciouslifeexpo.com

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get your tickets look at the schedule

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figure it out

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get your plans in order all of your food

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everything and your drinks for the

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weekend because you're going to spend

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friday

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saturday and sunday with all of us over

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at the conscious life expo

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oh um dr stephen greer

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dr stephen greer is going to be with us

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that's right so much more linda moulton

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howe

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we've got uh whitley strieber we've got

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billy carson

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uh richard dolan all of that on the ufo

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side

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it's gonna be great and uh james

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redfield

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is gonna be there too as well so you

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want to go and check it all out over at

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conscious consciouslifeexpo.com

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i'm going to take a break this is fade

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to black i'm your host jimmy church

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going to be a great night tonight it's

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all ghosts

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all the time all night long sheree and

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tony rathman

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are here of evpi i'm your host jimmy

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your father's radio show on the game

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changer radio network

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and kgra the planet

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

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what's up chris what up this is jimmy

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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your host jimmy church tonight tony and

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sheree rathman are here now tomorrow

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night

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it's gonna be a busy uh week and weekend

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around here because

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all weekend will be over hosting the

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conscious life expo

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so you're going to get your fill of a

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jimmy this week we'll see everybody will

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take a break on monday

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all right tonight's guests

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are the leaders of ebpi tony and sheree

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rathman

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it's a full night of ghost hunting and

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ghosts all night long and evpi is a

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paranormal team and they

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are located in phoenix arizona they've

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spent the last

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decade discovering the truths about

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spirits entities

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and life after death their specialty

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lies

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in spirit communication through both

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evps and itc

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communication and have captured some

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amazing entity voices through the years

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of investigation we will be going

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through some of their best tonight

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on the show now they use a lot of

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different equipment i've been talking

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about this a lot

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uh not only on the show but with tony

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directly because they have digital

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recorders they've got parabolic mics

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multi-track recorders and they also

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build and design

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uh their own spirit boxes and we're

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going to be talking about all of that

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tonight

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when i i got the chance to uh first meet

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uh tony and sheree

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i went up i didn't realize i saw the

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gear

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i thought it was with the tv show i did

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i thought it was in the tv show and and

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i went

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and i and they're sitting and i realized

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this was their world this was their

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stuff i want to welcome back to fade to

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black sheree and tony rathman

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that blew my mind that night guys

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00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:19,680
welcome back to the show

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the amount of gear that you guys take

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00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:24,160
when you go out to do an investigation

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that's

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00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,000
absolutely incredible very impressive

797
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:30,480
thank you yeah we uh we packed the car

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00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:32,320
like we've never packed it before to

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make that trip

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out to uh the queen mary that's for sure

801
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:38,079
now uh i'm gonna start here i'm gonna

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i'm gonna

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she's the boss tony

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00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:45,839
um i'm going to start with shari sheree

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who uh you've been doing this for about

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10 years

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00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:52,960
who was in the ghost first

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00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:56,240
well actually 11 years almost

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00:37:01,030 --> 00:37:00,560
um 12 years now so i we started 11 years

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00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:01,040
ago

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okay now who is the boss see right now

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00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,480
she just set the tone for the show

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right there out of the gate out of the

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gate but but

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but who who was into it first did you

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00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:13,200
guys have to talk

817
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:15,839
each other into it but to be honest it's

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00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:16,320
um

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00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:19,920
first i am the one that's fascinated

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with this

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spirits and everything since i was

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little

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and before i met tony i loved to watch

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ghosts or paranormal shows me and my

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daughter

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and at one time when i was watching a

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paranormal show i

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invited tony hey come watch with me

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and he goes that is bs i don't want to

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watch this one that that's not true

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that's bs so that's

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where it started and then actually valen

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one valentine's day he asked me what do

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you want to do for

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valentine's day so i said for a change i

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want

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to be

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00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:08,480
adventurous valentine's day because we

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always do

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00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:13,839
um going to hotel fancy hotels swimming

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whatever or drinking mostly that's what

842
00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:19,680
we always do it's kind of boring

843
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:22,480
so i want some adventures so i said why

844
00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:23,280
don't we do

845
00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:26,720
ghost hunting and he's like what

846
00:38:33,670 --> 00:38:30,480
are you kidding me okay so

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valentine's day ghost hunting trip where

848
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:40,069
san carlos uh hotel here in phoenix

849
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:41,920
downtown phoenix

850
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:45,119
and uh was it tony was it what you

851
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:46,800
thought it was going to be

852
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:50,560
no not at all my father was a

853
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:52,880
physics chemistry and physical science

854
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:53,680
teacher

855
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:56,000
so everything i grew up with anytime i

856
00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:57,359
asked a question

857
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:59,359
it was science-based everything was

858
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:00,480
science based

859
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:03,359
paranormal to me didn't really exist i

860
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:05,680
didn't believe i was a complete

861
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:08,240
skeptic so we go on this trip because of

862
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:09,040
course

863
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:11,680
11 years ago she asked me on valentine's

864
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:12,240
day

865
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:14,400
and unless i wanted her mad at me until

866
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:16,240
the next valentine's day

867
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:18,400
i had to say sure honey i'll we'll do

868
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:19,359
this

869
00:39:23,109 --> 00:39:20,800
you got to do it you got to play the

870
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:23,119
game that is correct

871
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:25,040
so i found a location online that had a

872
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:26,160
reputation

873
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:29,599
i bought her a very cheap night vision

874
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:30,240
camera

875
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:33,839
digital recorder and um an emf meter

876
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:36,880
right and i thought okay now she's set

877
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:40,640
so we go i played along i was expecting

878
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:43,680
nothing i was expecting the gear to sit

879
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:45,440
in the closet for the next three

880
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:48,560
five years until we threw it out and was

881
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:49,200
literally

882
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:52,400
expecting nothing when we got

883
00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:54,880
back from the weekend and she started

884
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:56,240
reviewing

885
00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:58,480
she was calling me over every three

886
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:00,160
minutes listen to this

887
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:03,119
what is that what is in this picture

888
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:06,079
what just moved across the video screen

889
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:09,760
i couldn't answer any of it and it

890
00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:13,280
literally put me in shock for probably

891
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:16,480
two months trying to get logical answers

892
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:18,160
to what i was hearing

893
00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:20,800
seeing and what was in the photographs

894
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:21,200
and

895
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:24,240
that's what started the last 11 years of

896
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:24,560
us

897
00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:27,680
investigating constantly since then now

898
00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:29,599
sheree so you get the last laugh don't

899
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:31,119
you did you of course

900
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:34,319
yes so you get to say i told you so

901
00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:37,440
i told you so and now he's the one who's

902
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:38,160
very very

903
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:41,280
obsessed with paranormal um

904
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:44,319
investigation or i am yeah yeah and now

905
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:47,280
uh not only are you guys leaders in this

906
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:48,079
community

907
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:51,280
and i'm so fortunate to

908
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:53,760
uh have met you and and we've got to

909
00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:55,680
hang out and do things together

910
00:41:01,829 --> 00:40:58,880
um and i i said in my opening uh state

911
00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:01,839
of my rant tonight i've had three ghost

912
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:03,760
experiences and two of them were with

913
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:04,319
you guys

914
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:07,599
right i mean how crazy is that so um

915
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:11,040
but now you guys design

916
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:13,680
some of the and builds some of the

917
00:41:18,630 --> 00:41:15,520
leading technology

918
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:18,640
in in ghost investigations today

919
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:22,000
how did that start tony did you have an

920
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:23,359
electronics background oh

921
00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:27,119
let me let me say this to the audience

922
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:30,560
so we're hanging out and and i i saw the

923
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:31,440
gear

924
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:35,200
but i didn't really take a close look

925
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:38,319
we get up to the or down i should say

926
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:41,200
because we went below decks um to the

927
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:42,640
churchill suite

928
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:46,160
and you had the evox there the evox 2.0

929
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,880
and i look at now i know gear right tony

930
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:50,640
you've seen my studio you know you know

931
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:52,480
what i'm about right okay i'm very

932
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:54,079
serious about this

933
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:57,680
and you open up the box uh and it's nice

934
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:59,200
it's high-tech but you open it i'm

935
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:00,960
looking and i thought oh

936
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:03,040
what's going on and that's when you told

937
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:04,720
me you designed it

938
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:06,560
and i'm look it's it's about as

939
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:08,400
sophisticated it's straight out of star

940
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:09,040
trek

941
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:12,640
right i mean it's it it is it is uh

942
00:42:28,829 --> 00:42:16,400
very uh as sophisticated is the word i

943
00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:31,589
something

944
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:34,079
background an industrial design

945
00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:35,839
background

946
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:37,920
i i worked in the electronics shop when

947
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:39,760
i was teenager

948
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:42,720
helping fix televisions radios so it

949
00:42:46,309 --> 00:42:44,000
wasn't extensive

950
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:46,319
but it was enough to be able to build

951
00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:48,240
these things and that definitely helped

952
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:49,040
me

953
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:52,240
but the way we got into that was started

954
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,079
with evps and

955
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:56,000
you know i owe it to sheree because the

956
00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:57,119
one thing sheree

957
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,680
did was every time we went into and

958
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:01,440
started asking questions like crazy and

959
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:03,920
she'd stop me and she'd say

960
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:07,280
stop introduce yourself tell them who we

961
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:07,599
are

962
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:10,560
tell them why we're here and so we

963
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:12,400
continue to do that and we've done that

964
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:13,280
ever since but

965
00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:17,359
that created um sort of a trust

966
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:20,240
with the spirit world and has given us

967
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:20,560
just

968
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:24,400
unbelievable evps and then from evps

969
00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:26,960
we started using the first spirit box

970
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:29,119
which was an sb7 which is

971
00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:31,680
basically standard to any paranormal

972
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,240
group

973
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:34,160
which i absolutely loved because i could

974
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:35,680
hear the responses

975
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:38,480
but the static the white noise was so

976
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:40,319
distracting to us

977
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:42,800
that i hated it and i said we're going

978
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:44,240
to build something better we're going to

979
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:45,760
build something cleaner

980
00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:48,640
without static without noise and that's

981
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:49,359
how this all

982
00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:51,440
transpired somebody just posted up in

983
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:53,760
twitter third stone studios

984
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:57,359
i just got gifted a try scale in an sp7

985
00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:00,240
and they just post as you said that this

986
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:02,240
popped up in twitter so now i understand

987
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:04,240
what you're saying about the sp7 spirit

988
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:05,040
box

989
00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:08,400
and and a tricoder it's like the the two

990
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:10,319
the two necessary things when you

991
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:11,520
anybody starts off

992
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:14,319
in in the field of ghost hunting

993
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:15,040
absolutely

994
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:18,079
yep so um and the other thing that i

995
00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:18,880
want to mention

996
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:22,400
is my experience with uh

997
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:25,440
the evox uh the 2.0 the version that i

998
00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:26,240
saw

999
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:29,280
is it's not only eliminating

1000
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:31,200
the white noise that you're talking

1001
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:33,440
about but there's a graphic

1002
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:36,720
uh electronic uh

1003
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:39,839
graph of the voice as it's coming

1004
00:44:43,030 --> 00:44:40,800
through yes

1005
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:43,040
and so you're able to have the visual

1006
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:44,240
connection

1007
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:47,200
um as well as the audio and i found

1008
00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:48,880
myself

1009
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:52,480
watching that right i was i was watching

1010
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:56,160
what i was just because uh it would

1011
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:59,760
uh trigger just a nanosecond before the

1012
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:01,040
voice came in

1013
00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:03,520
so i would watch and i knew that the

1014
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:04,319
voice

1015
00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:07,440
was about to happen and i was just

1016
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:09,680
glued to it but that was a whole

1017
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:10,960
different way to

1018
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:13,680
experience what was going down without

1019
00:45:16,829 --> 00:45:15,200
the white noise

1020
00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:16,839
you would just hear the voices come

1021
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,240
through

1022
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:20,400
yeah you're absolutely correct and that

1023
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:21,520
that um

1024
00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:24,240
only happened in the last two boxes that

1025
00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:25,119
we built

1026
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:27,359
that we were able to eliminate all that

1027
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:29,520
and the graph you're talking about

1028
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:32,400
yes um it was a special order that we

1029
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:34,319
ordered from bulgaria

1030
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:36,800
and what it does is not only can it

1031
00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:38,240
graph the audio

1032
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:41,119
spectrum of what's coming through but it

1033
00:45:45,270 --> 00:45:42,240
can also

1034
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:45,280
um it'll tell us that what hertz or

1035
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:48,319
megahertz the evps or the voices are

1036
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:49,359
coming in that

1037
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:52,400
in at which is a huge help to us because

1038
00:45:57,109 --> 00:45:54,480
we've been trying to identify

1039
00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:57,119
where evps are left and that what hurt

1040
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:58,960
spectrum or megahertz

1041
00:46:03,430 --> 00:46:01,359
and now this box will literally record

1042
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:03,440
it when somebody speaks it'll tell us

1043
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:05,520
exactly what hurts or megahertz it's

1044
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:07,440
coming in at which is great for our

1045
00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:08,800
further production

1046
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:11,839
and next invention now do you guys

1047
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:14,000
sell these or do you just keep the good

1048
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:15,760
stuff to yourself

1049
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:18,480
well we we've been asked i don't know

1050
00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:19,200
how many

1051
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:21,760
thousands of times and it's not that we

1052
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:23,520
necessarily wouldn't but we're so

1053
00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:25,760
involved in trying to find the answers

1054
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,000
that we only build one and then we

1055
00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:30,480
either improve on it or replace it or

1056
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:31,839
build again

1057
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:34,960
to keep constantly enhancing and

1058
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:37,440
improving to find the answers that we're

1059
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:39,680
looking for yeah i i was checking it out

1060
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:40,240
and i was

1061
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:42,560
this is what went through my mind can i

1062
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:44,880
cleanse can i be honest with you

1063
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:46,560
of course i was like i can't fit this

1064
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:47,930
under my jacket

1065
00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:49,520
[Laughter]

1066
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:51,599
we'll let you borrow i gotta get this

1067
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:52,800
into my car

1068
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:54,800
but i can't sneak this off the boat

1069
00:46:58,870 --> 00:46:56,560
somebody's gonna see me

1070
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:58,880
it was just incredible it blew my mind

1071
00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:59,760
now

1072
00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:01,680
um and we'll get to all of that in a

1073
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:03,359
second but i want to stay on the gear

1074
00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:04,800
and what you guys use

1075
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:08,079
um i've been watching your post recently

1076
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:11,520
of this new box that you have built

1077
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:13,599
and you said something i need

1078
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:15,440
clarification on all of this

1079
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:18,079
because i'm i was impressed i got to

1080
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:18,880
hear it

1081
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:20,800
you're you're uh posting it out there

1082
00:47:25,990 --> 00:47:22,800
for everybody but you said

1083
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:26,000
that the bank is reverse

1084
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:29,520
speech now i i don't even understand

1085
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:30,640
what that means i know

1086
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:33,839
reverse speech i i'm assuming but the

1087
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:35,440
words were coming out

1088
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:39,280
front words okay so

1089
00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:42,160
tony look talk to me like i'm five years

1090
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:43,760
old because that doesn't make sense to

1091
00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:44,960
me

1092
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:48,880
okay well a regular spirit box uses

1093
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:51,760
ra scanning radio frequency so in other

1094
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:52,079
words

1095
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:55,040
it's it's literally a radio that that

1096
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:56,079
automatically

1097
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:58,640
at different speeds scans through the

1098
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:00,640
radio stations now our evox

1099
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:04,079
takes it way beyond that it skips known

1100
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,640
radio station frequencies it expands

1101
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:08,079
past the 88

1102
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:12,319
past 107.9 to broaden that spectrum

1103
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:15,680
the reverse speech box doesn't use radio

1104
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:16,079
at

1105
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:19,760
all it uses sound banks

1106
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:22,720
sound banks that have been reversed so

1107
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:23,680
that there

1108
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:27,280
are no english words or let alone

1109
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:29,920
sentences in there and then they're

1110
00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:30,720
broken up

1111
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:33,920
into small fragments so you don't even

1112
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:35,119
have a full word

1113
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:39,520
you have a syllable or a pronunciation

1114
00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:42,160
and there are thousands of them in the

1115
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:43,599
box you saw

1116
00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:46,800
and multiple layers of them and they

1117
00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:49,520
randomly shuffle and it spits out

1118
00:48:53,589 --> 00:48:50,559
basically

1119
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:53,599
gibberish but the spirits when they come

1120
00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:54,079
through

1121
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:56,319
they can manipulate that gibberish it

1122
00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:57,280
works as like

1123
00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:00,640
white noise does and they create words

1124
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:02,960
and they create sentences that you can

1125
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:04,480
fully hear and understand

1126
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:06,720
you know you are way out there man

1127
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:08,319
you're like christopher lloyd

1128
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:11,680
in in back to the future i mean because

1129
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:15,040
uh i didn't know i i was assuming that

1130
00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:15,599
that was

1131
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:18,079
because i was listening to it spit out

1132
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:19,359
words

1133
00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:22,079
forward am i even saying this correct

1134
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:23,680
yes i guess i am

1135
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:26,640
the words are coming out correctly but

1136
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:27,119
it's

1137
00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:30,640
in a reverse word sound bank so there's

1138
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:31,119
some

1139
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:34,400
heavy heavy technology going on there

1140
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:36,880
to assemble all of this together i mean

1141
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:38,400
i don't i don't know

1142
00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:40,960
do you is this schematics how does the

1143
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,400
sound bank get put together

1144
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:44,640
how do you do this well it's all done

1145
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:45,599
manually

1146
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:48,640
but the whole purpose of it was is that

1147
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:52,240
most apps that are out there um

1148
00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:54,640
use sound banks whether it be reversed

1149
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:56,559
or forward or anything in between but

1150
00:50:02,230 --> 00:49:58,559
they use the same concept

1151
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:02,240
but for 11 years i've tried hundreds of

1152
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:02,800
them

1153
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:06,079
and never had any success so i said to

1154
00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:07,839
sheree i said okay i'm going to build

1155
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:10,640
my own version where i know what's in it

1156
00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:12,640
i know there's nothing in there that is

1157
00:50:16,950 --> 00:50:14,160
going to spit out a word that i

1158
00:50:19,109 --> 00:50:16,960
wasn't aware was there so i built the

1159
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:19,119
sound banks myself i reversed them

1160
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:23,440
in fact what i used was our kgra

1161
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:26,640
one of our episodes and reversed it

1162
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:28,640
and then cut it up that's what it was

1163
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:29,760
planned it's

1164
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:31,680
absolutely incredible it's incredible

1165
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:33,359
and this again

1166
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:36,079
this isn't for sale you're just this is

1167
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:39,200
for your own research to move forward

1168
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:43,040
right okay now um and so

1169
00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:45,119
now let's get some clarification for

1170
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:46,960
everybody there are ghost hunters right

1171
00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:47,839
now

1172
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:49,680
that are listening to the show that

1173
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:52,160
understand what you're talking about

1174
00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:54,480
there's others out there that may know

1175
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:55,520
what an evp

1176
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:57,280
is they've heard it but there's

1177
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:59,040
different classifications of

1178
00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:01,440
of of things and how they're done how

1179
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:02,400
they're recorded

1180
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:05,359
how they are captured putting spirit

1181
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:06,079
boxes

1182
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:09,280
aside right that's a that's another

1183
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:12,400
part of this technology an evp

1184
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:15,760
is the capture of an actual voice

1185
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:18,720
correct correct evp stands for

1186
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:19,520
electronic

1187
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:22,240
voice phenomenon it is captured on the

1188
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:23,760
digital recorder

1189
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:26,480
but it is not heard until you go back

1190
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:28,880
and re-listen to the recording

1191
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:30,640
most of the time you won't hear it with

1192
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,480
your own ears it just shows up

1193
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:34,880
on the digital recorder which is

1194
00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:36,720
different from what you and i heard on

1195
00:51:40,470 --> 00:51:37,920
the queen mary

1196
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:40,480
that was a direct voice response because

1197
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:42,319
we heard it with our own ears

1198
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:45,599
right but but yes an evp you'll only

1199
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:47,839
hear when you replay the recording

1200
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:51,280
now how special was that moment

1201
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:54,240
uh where uh i'm gonna ask cheri this

1202
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:55,440
because i know

1203
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:58,720
i know tony's reaction uh because we got

1204
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:00,319
to share that together

1205
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:03,440
sheree how how how special is it

1206
00:52:07,589 --> 00:52:05,920
when a voice like that is just right out

1207
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:07,599
there for everybody

1208
00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:11,280
well first of all just to let you know

1209
00:52:17,829 --> 00:52:14,319
your face and tony's face

1210
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:17,839
are priceless that night because

1211
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:21,200
your reaction your your like

1212
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:24,559
your eyes like as big as like

1213
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:27,760
what is that yes yes

1214
00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:30,160
yeah i can only imagine um i haven't

1215
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:30,960
seen the

1216
00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:34,319
tapes of uh the replay of that moment

1217
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:34,800
but

1218
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:38,240
tony's face did

1219
00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:41,119
you know and it was it was actually you

1220
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:43,760
know i've talked about this a lot

1221
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:46,800
but tony and i connected i died

1222
00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:48,880
you know did this thing and i'm looking

1223
00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:50,640
at his face and but all that

1224
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:54,400
told me was that i heard it

1225
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:58,079
right that that was the point and and

1226
00:53:01,349 --> 00:53:00,480
how unique is that to hear a voice that

1227
00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:01,359
loud in

1228
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:03,920
in the in in a room like that well for

1229
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:05,200
me

1230
00:53:10,870 --> 00:53:08,559
it's very very um like oh my

1231
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:10,880
it's very exciting to hear like a

1232
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:12,800
disembodied voice with your own

1233
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:16,319
ears yeah and it's rare i mean you will

1234
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:17,680
hear him we've had we've heard him

1235
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:18,559
before

1236
00:53:22,309 --> 00:53:21,200
uh one of the places we investigated in

1237
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:22,319
the philippines

1238
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:23,920
i've never heard so many with my own

1239
00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:25,520
ears before ever

1240
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:29,440
but it is rare um nine times out of ten

1241
00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:30,079
or

1242
00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:32,000
nine point nine out of ten you're only

1243
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:33,359
going to hear it on the recorder

1244
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:35,440
the fact that we heard that voice

1245
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:37,200
directly with our own ears

1246
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:39,359
you and i looked right at each other we

1247
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:41,040
both knew we heard it

1248
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:43,839
and it was loud it was as if they were

1249
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:45,760
standing right in the room and if i

1250
00:53:49,109 --> 00:53:48,400
remember correctly it wasn't even a word

1251
00:53:57,670 --> 00:53:49,119
it was a

1252
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:57,680
no other way to describe it

1253
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:00,960
um it was just hmm uh

1254
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:03,440
like somebody did it in my ear right

1255
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:05,440
that was trippy man that was trippy

1256
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:08,240
so for for me to go out on my very first

1257
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:10,079
official ghost investigation

1258
00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:12,319
to get that i'm not going to get that

1259
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:14,319
every time i go out right

1260
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:17,520
right that's it no no that's it no it

1261
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:20,000
it's rare it's the same thing with the

1262
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:21,119
apparition

1263
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:24,480
when you're

1264
00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:27,599
you know investigating yeah it

1265
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:30,160
the the odds are against you every time

1266
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:31,359
to have it happen

1267
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,280
but when it does happen like cherie was

1268
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:35,040
saying that excitement level

1269
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:37,200
is is flooring and we've been doing this

1270
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:38,319
11 years

1271
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:39,760
and there's still nothing better than

1272
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:41,520
hearing a voice directly with your own

1273
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:42,160
ears

1274
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:44,640
or even catching a fantastic evp that

1275
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:47,040
excitement level never dies

1276
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:49,200
but it is rare and for that to have

1277
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:51,440
happened on one of your first

1278
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:53,839
investigations you know that you should

1279
00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:55,200
be honored by that because they

1280
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:56,880
obviously wanted you to hear it

1281
00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:58,319
and there were other people in the room

1282
00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:59,839
that heard it too no doubt about it it

1283
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:00,880
was that loud

1284
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:03,119
but it was a phenomenal experience now

1285
00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:04,319
you guys use

1286
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:05,920
we've got about five minutes before the

1287
00:55:10,789 --> 00:55:07,359
break um to

1288
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:10,799
capture uh evps you've got a lot of

1289
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:12,240
different equipment to do this

1290
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:14,160
and one of the one of the things that

1291
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:15,520
caught my eye

1292
00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:18,400
is you guys use parabolic microphones

1293
00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:18,960
now

1294
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:20,799
the audience it's a it looks like a

1295
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:22,319
radar dish

1296
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:23,920
right that's what it looks like and then

1297
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:26,240
there's a microphone that is pointed

1298
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:26,640
back

1299
00:55:30,549 --> 00:55:29,920
at the parabolic reflector but you are

1300
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:30,559
able to

1301
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:34,240
focus with that how successful are you

1302
00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:37,520
with those unbelievably successful we

1303
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:38,799
have used it

1304
00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:40,880
oh my gosh since we've got since we

1305
00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:43,040
since we got them and we've used them

1306
00:55:46,789 --> 00:55:45,440
in hundreds of locations they are

1307
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:46,799
unbelievably

1308
00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:50,079
successful as long as you don't have a

1309
00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:51,680
lot of background

1310
00:55:54,789 --> 00:55:54,079
noise or disturbances if it's a quiet

1311
00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:54,799
area

1312
00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:57,680
they work fantastic to pull voices out

1313
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:59,359
that you would have never captured on a

1314
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:01,040
regular digital recorder yeah

1315
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:04,559
very very very sensitive uh i can only

1316
00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:06,240
imagine because you can pick up

1317
00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:10,319
it's like a a very focused uh

1318
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:12,480
pickup point but also over great

1319
00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:14,480
distances too as well

1320
00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:16,880
all right now what about uh you know the

1321
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:18,000
uh the

1322
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:20,720
the digital recorders uh that everybody

1323
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:22,960
uses i've got tascam

1324
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:25,920
uh that's what i use uh what do you guys

1325
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:27,839
use for digital recorders

1326
00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:30,000
we have tascam as well i think we've got

1327
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:31,040
three of them right

1328
00:56:38,470 --> 00:56:34,079
we've got sony and then we use

1329
00:56:41,589 --> 00:56:38,480
um digital recorders uh made by marantz

1330
00:56:43,990 --> 00:56:41,599
and they are uh high quality

1331
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:44,000
professional recorders they have uh

1332
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:48,000
specific mics we get we've got we've got

1333
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:50,400
almost everything um and we've got

1334
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:51,520
probably

1335
00:56:57,670 --> 00:56:55,040
30 30 or more of them that we use

1336
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:57,680
we'll place certain recorders and down

1337
00:57:02,630 --> 00:56:59,760
in locations to just record

1338
00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:02,640
we'll hook others to the parabolic mics

1339
00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:03,119
um

1340
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:06,000
we'll use ones that are sound activated

1341
00:57:08,549 --> 00:57:07,680
so if something is heard they start

1342
00:57:12,870 --> 00:57:08,559
recording

1343
00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:12,880
um but yeah taz cam sony and um

1344
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:16,799
and swords here is uh this is a brand

1345
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:17,359
new

1346
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:19,280
i just unwrapped it right now took it

1347
00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:20,400
out of the box

1348
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:23,440
um tascam sent me a case of these

1349
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:26,720
so well only because uh

1350
00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:29,599
uh we uh we're gonna go out and we were

1351
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:30,160
gonna

1352
00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:33,280
uh place uh you know ten of these

1353
00:57:37,109 --> 00:57:34,400
throughout a house

1354
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:37,119
right and but this i'm just showing this

1355
00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:38,400
to the audience this is what we're

1356
00:57:43,270 --> 00:57:41,040
talking about this is a tascam

1357
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:43,280
and the microphone so we've been talking

1358
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:44,559
about microphones

1359
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:48,000
uh the microphones are here at the top

1360
00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:50,160
and that's what everybody uses it's just

1361
00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:51,680
a sound card

1362
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:55,119
but it's these microphones that pick up

1363
00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:56,960
everything because they're very very

1364
00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:59,040
sensitive and then you go back and

1365
00:58:03,030 --> 00:58:00,400
review the files

1366
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:03,040
uh off of a recorder like this and

1367
00:58:07,030 --> 00:58:04,799
you're looking for something specific in

1368
00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:07,040
the sound file

1369
00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:09,280
is it after a question are you looking

1370
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:10,240
deep uh

1371
00:58:14,789 --> 00:58:13,040
where everything goes quiet yeah

1372
00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:14,799
normally when they do respond and i

1373
00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:16,400
don't know how they know this but they

1374
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:17,839
wait for a break

1375
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:20,400
not always but nine times out of ten

1376
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:21,119
again

1377
00:58:25,030 --> 00:58:22,960
they'll wait for silence to speak when

1378
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:25,040
you stop and before something else

1379
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:25,760
happens

1380
00:58:31,910 --> 00:58:28,799
they'll throw in a word or a sentence

1381
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:31,920
um but you're you're really looking for

1382
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:34,079
a difference in the in the wave input

1383
00:58:38,549 --> 00:58:35,599
from what was there prior

1384
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:38,559
and a lot of times it'll get hit with

1385
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,319
some static interference

1386
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:42,480
prior to the message being left so

1387
00:58:45,190 --> 00:58:43,920
always looking for that static

1388
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:45,200
interference first

1389
00:58:49,030 --> 00:58:47,119
you'll usually have an evp that follows

1390
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:49,040
yeah you've been doing this for so long

1391
00:58:52,230 --> 00:58:50,799
right you know what to look like in the

1392
00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:52,240
wav file and

1393
00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:53,760
and and see what's there that's

1394
00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:56,559
interesting static right in front like

1395
00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:59,200
right yep exactly wow that's that's

1396
00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:00,960
interesting now uh

1397
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:04,400
i've got one minute uh everybody knows

1398
00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:07,440
uh about the tricorder because you see

1399
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:07,760
them

1400
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:09,599
on the shows and they're and they're

1401
00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:11,040
lighting up all of the time but what

1402
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:13,359
does the tri-quarter

1403
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:16,640
uh do well it does a variety of things

1404
00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:17,119
but

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00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:19,599
what it's recording is changes in you

1406
00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:20,559
know emf

1407
00:59:24,589 --> 00:59:22,640
and that's what's making it light up the

1408
00:59:27,910 --> 00:59:24,599
majority of them are monitoring

1409
00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:27,920
electromagnetic frequency the theory is

1410
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:31,280
is that spirits when they cause activity

1411
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:33,520
move something speak that they'll give

1412
00:59:37,829 --> 00:59:35,520
off electromagnetic frequency

1413
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:37,839
these devices will shine lights or beep

1414
00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:38,960
to let you know that

1415
00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:41,119
there was a change either in

1416
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:42,799
electromagnetic frequency

1417
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:45,680
temperature humidity it depends on how

1418
00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:47,520
advanced the particular

1419
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:49,280
meter is we've got ones that will

1420
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:52,000
monitor nine or ten different functions

1421
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:55,520
simultaneously and record it to cards um

1422
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,359
but that's what they're looking at now

1423
01:00:01,510 --> 00:59:59,359
do you normally

1424
01:00:03,030 --> 01:00:01,520
uh i've only got 15 seconds we can

1425
01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:03,040
continue after the break

1426
01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:06,240
but if the tricorder goes off

1427
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:09,040
is an evp probably being recorded at

1428
01:00:12,069 --> 01:00:10,559
that same time

1429
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:12,079
not necessarily it depends on the

1430
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:14,319
situation the circumstances i mean there

1431
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:16,000
are a lot of times that emf

1432
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:18,880
meters are set off just because of

1433
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:20,480
normal circumstances

1434
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:24,000
electricity wiring faulty wiring so

1435
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:25,440
you have to be able to determine what's

1436
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:27,200
paranormal and what's not yeah i was

1437
01:00:32,789 --> 01:00:29,200
watching the tricorders and then

1438
01:00:34,789 --> 01:00:32,799
looking over at the spirit box right

1439
01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:34,799
right my head's on a swivel i see that

1440
01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:36,000
light up okay

1441
01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:38,000
and and a couple of times that actually

1442
01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:39,680
happened

1443
01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:42,319
it was it was absolutely incredible to

1444
01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:44,400
see this go down uh for somebody like me

1445
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:45,599
for the first time

1446
01:00:49,349 --> 01:00:46,960
let's take our break right here our

1447
01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:49,359
guest tonight tony and sheree rathman

1448
01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:52,480
of evpi out of phoenix

1449
01:00:56,549 --> 01:00:54,400
now uh when we come back after the break

1450
01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:56,559
we're gonna get into some of these evps

1451
01:00:59,190 --> 01:00:58,160
and i've also got some images we're

1452
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:59,200
going to post up

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that will be in hashtag f2b right there

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01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:24,640
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

1586
01:06:27,510 --> 01:06:26,559
jimmy church tonight tony and sheree

1587
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:27,520
rathman

1588
01:06:33,029 --> 01:06:31,200
of evpi out of phoenix

1589
01:06:34,309 --> 01:06:33,039
i'm going to i'm going to take a wild

1590
01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:34,319
guess here uh

1591
01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:37,760
guys evpi evp investigations

1592
01:06:44,470 --> 01:06:40,880
i'm just i'm going out on a limb here

1593
01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:44,480
evp investigations entity voices

1594
01:06:49,589 --> 01:06:46,960
paranormal investigations okay but you

1595
01:06:53,150 --> 01:06:49,599
had to put in an evp and do it because

1596
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that's our specialty the website is

1597
01:06:56,910 --> 01:06:54,799
entityvoices.com and

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01:06:58,710 --> 01:06:56,920
uh the link is over at

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jimmychurchradio.com go and check all of

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01:07:02,870 --> 01:06:59,599
that out

1601
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:02,880
um okay uh i want to get into i

1602
01:07:06,549 --> 01:07:05,280
everybody's waiting right uh what have

1603
01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:06,559
we got here

1604
01:07:11,589 --> 01:07:09,920
one of the uh coolest things about what

1605
01:07:13,910 --> 01:07:11,599
we're about to do tonight

1606
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:13,920
it takes me back to and everybody's

1607
01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:15,839
gonna say the same thing right it's it's

1608
01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:16,640
art bell

1609
01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:20,240
coast to coast 1995. in playing those

1610
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:21,119
evps

1611
01:07:24,309 --> 01:07:23,440
and i couldn't wait i would stay up all

1612
01:07:27,430 --> 01:07:24,319
night

1613
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:27,440
and and listen to them and uh

1614
01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:31,200
it was just fascinating to me i

1615
01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:34,240
don't know as we get into this i don't

1616
01:07:39,910 --> 01:07:36,240
know what i'm listening to

1617
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:39,920
is it is it a a spirit

1618
01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:43,119
is it somebody that is trapped is it is

1619
01:07:46,870 --> 01:07:45,920
in in in between this world in another

1620
01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:46,880
world

1621
01:07:53,910 --> 01:07:50,400
is it somebody crying out for help is it

1622
01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:53,920
uh somebody that's lost you know

1623
01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:57,200
and then we interrupt their world

1624
01:08:00,630 --> 01:07:59,440
where suddenly we come in and they don't

1625
01:08:03,829 --> 01:08:00,640
know what's going on

1626
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:03,839
and everybody is confused and then uh

1627
01:08:07,670 --> 01:08:06,160
so there's that element and then you

1628
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:07,680
know there's children

1629
01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:10,400
you know and which always freaks me out

1630
01:08:13,589 --> 01:08:11,280
um

1631
01:08:15,270 --> 01:08:13,599
nobody i'm a parent you know and and so

1632
01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:15,280
there's there's that part

1633
01:08:19,030 --> 01:08:18,080
and then there's uh a direct

1634
01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:19,040
communication

1635
01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:22,239
where um i i think that they're

1636
01:08:26,309 --> 01:08:23,440
surprised

1637
01:08:26,630 --> 01:08:26,319
right that this is coming out of nowhere

1638
01:08:29,590 --> 01:08:26,640
so

1639
01:08:30,070 --> 01:08:29,600
what do you think ultimately is is going

1640
01:08:33,269 --> 01:08:30,080
on

1641
01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:33,279
uh with with who you're talking to well

1642
01:08:36,709 --> 01:08:34,960
you know those are some of the questions

1643
01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:36,719
that we're trying to

1644
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:40,239
identify exactly evps have been captured

1645
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:42,960
since any the first recording device has

1646
01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:44,880
ever been made which was a single wire

1647
01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:45,600
recorder

1648
01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:49,199
guess what it picked up evps but no

1649
01:08:54,789 --> 01:08:52,960
answers have ever been given beyond that

1650
01:08:56,390 --> 01:08:54,799
that yeah evps can be captured on

1651
01:08:59,510 --> 01:08:56,400
recorders whether it be digital

1652
01:09:02,149 --> 01:08:59,520
single wire whether it be tape

1653
01:09:03,430 --> 01:09:02,159
but those are some of the answers and

1654
01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:03,440
and some of the things that you

1655
01:09:06,510 --> 01:09:04,319
mentioned yes

1656
01:09:07,829 --> 01:09:06,520
are they spirits are they

1657
01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:07,839
extraterrestrial

1658
01:09:13,430 --> 01:09:10,960
are they multi-dimensional beings

1659
01:09:14,789 --> 01:09:13,440
where i mean sharia and i have ran into

1660
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:14,799
a situation

1661
01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:18,000
where they thought we were the ghosts

1662
01:09:24,789 --> 01:09:21,359
right right right exactly

1663
01:09:28,870 --> 01:09:24,799
exactly and there's another part um

1664
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:28,880
that i get from any evp that i listen to

1665
01:09:35,749 --> 01:09:32,319
um almost loneliness for loan

1666
01:09:38,789 --> 01:09:35,759
a forlorn melancholy right i get

1667
01:09:40,229 --> 01:09:38,799
that kind of vibe too as well do you do

1668
01:09:42,229 --> 01:09:40,239
you pick up on that

1669
01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:42,239
uh absolutely and it depends on where

1670
01:09:47,189 --> 01:09:44,239
you're at i mean if you're in a hospital

1671
01:09:50,550 --> 01:09:47,199
or an insane asylum or a prison

1672
01:09:53,349 --> 01:09:50,560
um right you'll get all sorts of

1673
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:53,359
varying emotions cemetery too yeah

1674
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:54,480
that's funny

1675
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:56,400
shari's cemetery don't forget the

1676
01:10:00,870 --> 01:09:57,840
cemetery

1677
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:00,880
um when we were on the queen mary

1678
01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:04,320
um and i was walking around i did a lot

1679
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:05,440
of

1680
01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:08,960
downtime right and

1681
01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:12,000
so i'm walking around the ship uh a

1682
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:13,760
little bit i always had we had to have

1683
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:15,120
somebody with us

1684
01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:19,120
but i felt like we weren't alone

1685
01:10:23,510 --> 01:10:22,159
and i'm i'm in these ginormous hallways

1686
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:23,520
or the you know

1687
01:10:27,510 --> 01:10:26,400
the ballroom for instance i just felt

1688
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:27,520
like there was stuff

1689
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:29,679
all around us and i don't think it was

1690
01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:31,600
my imagination was it

1691
01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:33,600
it was not your imagination at all in

1692
01:10:37,750 --> 01:10:34,880
fact if you talked to

1693
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:37,760
anybody that was on that ship they all

1694
01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:39,360
had personal experiences

1695
01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:41,600
including sheree and i i was walking

1696
01:10:47,030 --> 01:10:43,679
down a hall to set up equipment

1697
01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:47,040
i got tapped on the shoulder i had a hay

1698
01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:49,440
right in my ear i mean not something you

1699
01:10:53,830 --> 01:10:50,960
heard like from down the hall

1700
01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:53,840
or i mean right in my ear so yeah they

1701
01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:54,800
knew we were there

1702
01:11:00,709 --> 01:10:58,320
even kathleen and also all of them

1703
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:00,719
had experiences at the engine room right

1704
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:03,280
we saw a shadow figure that night when

1705
01:11:06,550 --> 01:11:04,480
we're packing

1706
01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:06,560
right yep yeah i heard about that i

1707
01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:07,760
heard about that

1708
01:11:11,669 --> 01:11:10,239
so no there there were there were

1709
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:11,679
spirits or entities

1710
01:11:15,510 --> 01:11:13,679
all over that ship and they were very

1711
01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:15,520
curious probably because there were

1712
01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:17,679
people back on it for the first time in

1713
01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:18,880
eight months

1714
01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:20,400
and uh yeah they were checking out what

1715
01:11:23,350 --> 01:11:21,920
we were doing no doubt about it i think

1716
01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:23,360
about that you know walking down the

1717
01:11:26,709 --> 01:11:24,320
street

1718
01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:26,719
doing your thing there's there's stuff

1719
01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:28,719
walking around that you can't see

1720
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:31,440
i mean it's right i i really feel that

1721
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:31,760
way

1722
01:11:35,189 --> 01:11:33,920
it's there's an inter-dimensional

1723
01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:35,199
parallel world

1724
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:37,840
aspect to this where i think our

1725
01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:39,120
frequencies

1726
01:11:44,149 --> 01:11:42,480
are just accidentally crossing and we're

1727
01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:44,159
going into

1728
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:45,920
each of these dimensions at the same

1729
01:11:49,990 --> 01:11:48,000
time correct and that

1730
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:50,000
that is definitely one of the theories

1731
01:11:54,149 --> 01:11:51,120
and a very

1732
01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:54,159
possible and probable one

1733
01:11:57,750 --> 01:11:56,560
if you believe that multi-dimensions

1734
01:12:00,709 --> 01:11:57,760
exist

1735
01:12:01,350 --> 01:12:00,719
i know lots of other investigators one

1736
01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:01,360
of them

1737
01:12:04,390 --> 01:12:03,520
a good very good friend of mine andrea

1738
01:12:06,149 --> 01:12:04,400
perrin

1739
01:12:07,750 --> 01:12:06,159
who was explaining a situation where

1740
01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:07,760
that happened to her

1741
01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:11,040
where there were like i can't remember

1742
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:11,760
what she said

1743
01:12:18,149 --> 01:12:14,800
1920s people sitting in their kitchen

1744
01:12:20,310 --> 01:12:18,159
at their table and had noticed

1745
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:20,320
either her father or her mother and they

1746
01:12:23,669 --> 01:12:22,800
were pointing at her like oh my god a

1747
01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:23,679
ghost

1748
01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:26,560
yet it was reversed for them so yeah

1749
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:28,960
that's definitely a scenario that uh

1750
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:31,440
has occurred often now check this out

1751
01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:33,360
you just said andrea perrin

1752
01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:37,520
right okay i literally got

1753
01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:40,480
a text from her just came in just came

1754
01:12:44,709 --> 01:12:41,280
in

1755
01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:44,719
and uh now i don't know

1756
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:47,040
i'm gonna share one of these because

1757
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:49,040
it's a series of pictures and she's

1758
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:50,000
telling me what's in these

1759
01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:53,679
pictures but um there is this

1760
01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:57,280
orb kind of that's

1761
01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:59,760
it's strange but it's a ring and it's a

1762
01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:01,280
smoky ring

1763
01:13:05,189 --> 01:13:03,120
and she's taking these pictures over

1764
01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:05,199
this valley in

1765
01:13:12,709 --> 01:13:08,560
in colorado and this smoky

1766
01:13:14,550 --> 01:13:12,719
ring moves around these trees

1767
01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:14,560
and i'm just going to hold this up so

1768
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:16,000
you guys can see it the camera's going

1769
01:13:18,709 --> 01:13:17,440
to see it too as well but this is from

1770
01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:18,719
andrea perrin

1771
01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:25,110
oh wow see that do you see that pink

1772
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:25,920
ring

1773
01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:28,239
oh yeah yeah that's awesome i'm gonna

1774
01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:29,760
hold this up to the camera here

1775
01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:31,600
there's i've got a bunch of cameras in

1776
01:13:35,590 --> 01:13:33,280
here but

1777
01:13:37,590 --> 01:13:35,600
and and it's and and so it's a series of

1778
01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:37,600
pictures and it's moving around this

1779
01:13:41,669 --> 01:13:38,560
tree

1780
01:13:43,990 --> 01:13:41,679
i'm like holy crap and andrea she's a

1781
01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:44,000
magnet for this stuff but it's funny

1782
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:45,679
that you just brought that up she just

1783
01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:46,560
uh

1784
01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:50,640
of amazing pictures

1785
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:54,640
um now okay these evps that we're gonna

1786
01:13:58,790 --> 01:13:56,000
run through tonight

1787
01:14:00,149 --> 01:13:58,800
uh and we've got a lot of them uh i'm

1788
01:14:00,950 --> 01:14:00,159
gonna set this up in two different

1789
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:00,960
segments

1790
01:14:07,510 --> 01:14:04,080
um we're gonna do valentine's day

1791
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:07,520
in uh the next segment okay uh so we'll

1792
01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:08,960
hold off on that

1793
01:14:14,310 --> 01:14:12,000
these first three um that

1794
01:14:16,229 --> 01:14:14,320
we're gonna play we're going to talk

1795
01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:16,239
about each one i want to set up on each

1796
01:14:20,470 --> 01:14:17,040
one

1797
01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:20,480
um but these are not spirit boxes

1798
01:14:26,790 --> 01:14:23,760
these are picked up by microphones

1799
01:14:29,910 --> 01:14:26,800
correct that is correct okay

1800
01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:29,920
now um the first one

1801
01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:32,320
is called uh i've got this muted you

1802
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:33,840
guys are gonna hear it

1803
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:36,960
first uh just let me uh uh

1804
01:14:40,550 --> 01:14:39,360
pause this okay i have to do this in

1805
01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:40,560
real time okay

1806
01:14:44,149 --> 01:14:43,760
this first one is called the camera is

1807
01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:44,159
not

1808
01:14:51,910 --> 01:14:48,880
working okay where was this recorded

1809
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:51,920
we were called to a private home um

1810
01:14:57,750 --> 01:14:55,360
they were experiencing shadow figures uh

1811
01:14:58,550 --> 01:14:57,760
voices in their upstairs hallway and

1812
01:15:02,630 --> 01:14:58,560
they

1813
01:15:06,070 --> 01:15:02,640
house

1814
01:15:09,350 --> 01:15:06,080
what state what city uh arizona

1815
01:15:11,110 --> 01:15:09,360
uh just outside phoenix so it was local

1816
01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:11,120
to us so obviously we went right over to

1817
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:12,320
help

1818
01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:15,040
but they were saying that their young

1819
01:15:17,910 --> 01:15:15,840
daughter was

1820
01:15:20,310 --> 01:15:17,920
being terrified at night something was

1821
01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:20,320
coming in and out of the room

1822
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:23,760
so we set up laser grids motion

1823
01:15:28,310 --> 01:15:24,960
detectors

1824
01:15:31,350 --> 01:15:28,320
night vision cameras digital recorders

1825
01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:31,360
um and a night vision camera to capture

1826
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:32,719
it all and we thought okay

1827
01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:35,280
if this thing moves if it says anything

1828
01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:35,920
if it

1829
01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:38,400
shows its shadow in the laser grid will

1830
01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:39,520
catch it

1831
01:15:54,149 --> 01:15:52,550
while it left a message on our digital

1832
01:15:57,430 --> 01:15:54,159
recorder

1833
01:15:58,310 --> 01:15:57,440
and it told us that our camera wasn't

1834
01:16:01,510 --> 01:15:58,320
working

1835
01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:01,520
and sure enough the camera never

1836
01:16:05,590 --> 01:16:03,280
recorded a thing

1837
01:16:08,390 --> 01:16:05,600
yet we're trying to identify if this

1838
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:08,400
house had paranormal activity

1839
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:11,840
and the spirit itself left a message

1840
01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:14,480
on our recorder saying hey your camera's

1841
01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:15,520
not working

1842
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:17,280
all right i'm going to play this back

1843
01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:19,440
right now i'm going to play it a couple

1844
01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:21,760
of times camera is not working

1845
01:16:31,110 --> 01:16:29,910
now um i'm going to play that again that

1846
01:16:34,310 --> 01:16:31,120
is

1847
01:16:36,630 --> 01:16:34,320
crystal clear yep

1848
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:36,640
that is insane i couldn't believe when i

1849
01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:37,840
heard this earlier today

1850
01:16:45,590 --> 01:16:40,080
uh i'm gonna play it again for everybody

1851
01:16:50,149 --> 01:16:48,709
now um okay now i know everybody just

1852
01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:50,159
heard that

1853
01:16:57,990 --> 01:16:53,920
that is a female voice

1854
01:16:59,990 --> 01:16:58,000
to me um whispering

1855
01:17:01,270 --> 01:17:00,000
the camera is not working i mean it's

1856
01:17:04,790 --> 01:17:01,280
completely audible

1857
01:17:07,510 --> 01:17:04,800
but it was a female voice right

1858
01:17:08,709 --> 01:17:07,520
i want to ask you about that what is the

1859
01:17:11,830 --> 01:17:08,719
norm here do you get

1860
01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:11,840
more male voices or female

1861
01:17:16,390 --> 01:17:14,480
it varies um it varies on where you're

1862
01:17:18,470 --> 01:17:16,400
at what the location is

1863
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:18,480
um i'd say it's probably pretty much a

1864
01:17:22,950 --> 01:17:19,920
50 50 split

1865
01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:22,960
but the males are usually a little bit

1866
01:17:25,990 --> 01:17:23,760
more

1867
01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:26,000
aggressive right they may be the first

1868
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:27,280
ones to speak

1869
01:17:31,270 --> 01:17:30,000
but the longer we're there the the

1870
01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:31,280
female ones will

1871
01:17:34,550 --> 01:17:32,880
will respond as well but it's usually

1872
01:17:37,750 --> 01:17:34,560
the males first now

1873
01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:37,760
cherie it's you uh asking the questions

1874
01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:38,320
here

1875
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:40,320
right no it wasn't me oh that wasn't

1876
01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:42,480
true audrey that's one of our uh

1877
01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:45,120
team members yeah okay okay i just

1878
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:46,960
assume because you're the boss

1879
01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:51,040
jimmy can't be me

1880
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:53,360
let's listen to this one more time it's

1881
01:18:01,510 --> 01:17:56,000
incredible it's incredible here we go

1882
01:18:06,550 --> 01:18:04,790
now um a parabolic microphone digital

1883
01:18:09,910 --> 01:18:06,560
recorder do you remember

1884
01:18:12,229 --> 01:18:09,920
yep it was a tascam digital recorder

1885
01:18:14,070 --> 01:18:12,239
um which was laying on the top of the

1886
01:18:14,950 --> 01:18:14,080
steps where we expected it to come

1887
01:18:16,950 --> 01:18:14,960
through

1888
01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:16,960
the funniest part was is that when we

1889
01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:18,880
played it for the homeowners

1890
01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:21,600
they identified the voice it was a

1891
01:18:26,070 --> 01:18:23,440
family member that had passed

1892
01:18:27,830 --> 01:18:26,080
less than a year ago and all the fear

1893
01:18:31,430 --> 01:18:27,840
went away they knew exactly

1894
01:18:31,910 --> 01:18:31,440
who it was and what what's crazy about

1895
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:31,920
this

1896
01:18:38,070 --> 01:18:34,960
is the voice

1897
01:18:41,110 --> 01:18:38,080
is answering as the ques

1898
01:18:41,510 --> 01:18:41,120
they overlap right just a little bit but

1899
01:18:49,350 --> 01:18:41,520
the

1900
01:18:51,270 --> 01:18:49,360
good good ear

1901
01:18:52,790 --> 01:18:51,280
yeah yeah that's incredible okay one

1902
01:18:54,070 --> 01:18:52,800
more time for everybody this is pretty

1903
01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:54,080
cool here we go oh

1904
01:18:57,189 --> 01:18:56,320
donnie just uh tweeted out yeah that's

1905
01:19:01,110 --> 01:18:57,199
so clear

1906
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:01,120
wow it's it's it's crystal clear

1907
01:19:08,470 --> 01:19:03,280
here we go one more time it's great can

1908
01:19:12,149 --> 01:19:08,480
you walk up and down the hall for us

1909
01:19:15,189 --> 01:19:12,159
man you know that's el crepo right

1910
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:15,199
well it is because you get goosebumps

1911
01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:18,480
yeah a lot of a lot of evps you'll just

1912
01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:19,679
hear a whisper

1913
01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:22,800
this one's got full tone vocal tone it's

1914
01:19:26,630 --> 01:19:23,120
got

1915
01:19:27,270 --> 01:19:26,640
pitch you can hear the syllables in each

1916
01:19:30,149 --> 01:19:27,280
word

1917
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:30,159
that's rare and this one was when we

1918
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:30,800
heard that

1919
01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:32,800
and we're like oh my god we set up all

1920
01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:34,719
this equipment to try to identify if

1921
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:36,000
something was in the house

1922
01:19:39,510 --> 01:19:37,840
and here it is telling us our

1923
01:19:43,750 --> 01:19:39,520
equipment's not working

1924
01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:43,760
how many uh evps do you miss

1925
01:19:47,189 --> 01:19:46,480
i mean you can't really guess or know

1926
01:19:50,870 --> 01:19:47,199
that

1927
01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:50,880
but it must be going on all the time

1928
01:19:55,590 --> 01:19:53,440
and you've got to go and focus on eight

1929
01:19:58,630 --> 01:19:55,600
hours of recording

1930
01:20:02,149 --> 01:19:58,640
it is an exhausting um

1931
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:02,159
to review especially if you've got audio

1932
01:20:06,390 --> 01:20:05,040
video god knows what else running that

1933
01:20:10,149 --> 01:20:06,400
you have to review

1934
01:20:11,990 --> 01:20:10,159
i mean we can do a 24-hour or 12-hour

1935
01:20:14,470 --> 01:20:12,000
investigation and spend

1936
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:14,480
weeks going through the review of the

1937
01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:15,760
evidence yeah because you've got more

1938
01:20:19,510 --> 01:20:17,440
than one recorder

1939
01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:19,520
right right and if it's eight hours

1940
01:20:24,550 --> 01:20:21,760
you've got three recorders that's 24

1941
01:20:26,709 --> 01:20:24,560
hours plus the video

1942
01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:26,719
right and then you set up dvr cameras

1943
01:20:29,669 --> 01:20:27,840
which run

1944
01:20:32,070 --> 01:20:29,679
constantly you've got and then you've

1945
01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:32,080
got to watch each screen individually

1946
01:20:35,270 --> 01:20:34,000
to make sure you didn't miss something

1947
01:20:37,030 --> 01:20:35,280
yeah it's a huge process

1948
01:20:38,709 --> 01:20:37,040
yeah cherie's laughing she's like you

1949
01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:38,719
have no idea

1950
01:20:44,870 --> 01:20:40,960
because she makes me do it all right now

1951
01:20:49,669 --> 01:20:47,910
tony it depends it depends um

1952
01:20:51,270 --> 01:20:49,679
you've caught some stuff i didn't even

1953
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:51,280
see right and

1954
01:20:54,870 --> 01:20:54,000
also sometimes you heard different and i

1955
01:20:58,229 --> 01:20:54,880
heard different

1956
01:21:01,590 --> 01:20:58,239
also so we kind of like debate um

1957
01:21:04,709 --> 01:21:01,600
each other what what is it saying

1958
01:21:07,990 --> 01:21:04,719
you know she uses the word debate but

1959
01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:08,000
in actuality we argue some of the worst

1960
01:21:11,510 --> 01:21:09,760
fights we've ever had have been over

1961
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:11,520
what an evp is saying

1962
01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:14,080
and that's when we know it goes straight

1963
01:21:17,990 --> 01:21:14,880
in the trash

1964
01:21:19,990 --> 01:21:18,000
can't agree it's not worth hearing okay

1965
01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:20,000
let's go to this next one which is

1966
01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:22,400
called uh the rathman's

1967
01:21:29,830 --> 01:21:26,800
no and no is uh there's uh 15

1968
01:21:31,350 --> 01:21:29,840
o's after this in the file where was

1969
01:21:32,950 --> 01:21:31,360
this recorded

1970
01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:32,960
this was another private home

1971
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:35,600
investigation they were complaining

1972
01:21:40,470 --> 01:21:39,280
similar experience of um an entity in

1973
01:21:43,590 --> 01:21:40,480
the house

1974
01:21:46,390 --> 01:21:43,600
and this one sheree walks in

1975
01:21:48,149 --> 01:21:46,400
has digital recorders one in her hand

1976
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:48,159
couple out in the hall

1977
01:21:52,470 --> 01:21:50,960
and she goes in and says who are you

1978
01:21:55,669 --> 01:21:52,480
what are you doing here

1979
01:21:56,870 --> 01:21:55,679
and they call us by name and you'll hear

1980
01:21:59,669 --> 01:21:56,880
it when you play it

1981
01:22:01,430 --> 01:21:59,679
here we go this is rathman's no so this

1982
01:22:04,390 --> 01:22:01,440
is also in phoenix

1983
01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:04,400
yes okay here we go let me uh cue this

1984
01:22:15,070 --> 01:22:06,560
up

1985
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:23,290
[Applause]

1986
01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:30,239
now that how many how many rathmans are

1987
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:31,040
in there

1988
01:22:37,270 --> 01:22:34,080
three three that is that

1989
01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:37,280
is that's crazy town man

1990
01:22:41,590 --> 01:22:40,239
yeah you can hear him say it's the

1991
01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:41,600
rathman's

1992
01:22:46,790 --> 01:22:44,960
get up get them out no and then

1993
01:22:48,229 --> 01:22:46,800
at the end the last person says oh i

1994
01:22:50,550 --> 01:22:48,239
guess that's my job

1995
01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:50,560
meaning to get rid of us but they were

1996
01:22:54,550 --> 01:22:52,080
they knew who we were

1997
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:54,560
we didn't give them our last name they

1998
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:55,120
said it

1999
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:57,520
three times and they did not want us

2000
01:23:02,149 --> 01:22:59,120
there i listened to this with my

2001
01:23:06,310 --> 01:23:02,159
headphones uh so many times today

2002
01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:06,320
um now now i'm gonna play it back again

2003
01:23:14,550 --> 01:23:10,400
and catch how many rathmans

2004
01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:19,990
can you please tell me your name

2005
01:23:38,310 --> 01:23:35,120
it's crazy man

2006
01:23:41,350 --> 01:23:38,320
now with something like this you're in a

2007
01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:41,360
room that's quiet

2008
01:23:44,870 --> 01:23:43,040
you're doing an investigation it's a

2009
01:23:48,229 --> 01:23:44,880
it's a quiet room there's nothing

2010
01:23:51,430 --> 01:23:48,239
going on there shari asked the question

2011
01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:51,440
you guys go silent in a quiet room

2012
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:53,840
and you get this

2013
01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:55,040
[Music]

2014
01:24:00,709 --> 01:23:58,400
that's crazy it's

2015
01:24:01,669 --> 01:24:00,719
it's part of the paranormal and you just

2016
01:24:04,709 --> 01:24:01,679
it's crazy

2017
01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:04,719
but it's fascinating at the same time

2018
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:06,480
right and even freakier when they're

2019
01:24:10,310 --> 01:24:08,320
calling you by name

2020
01:24:11,350 --> 01:24:10,320
who you are that's that's the question

2021
01:24:15,910 --> 01:24:11,360
how do you feel

2022
01:24:32,629 --> 01:24:15,920
when you get a spirit calling you out

2023
01:24:36,149 --> 01:24:34,229
for two years three years i don't

2024
01:24:37,750 --> 01:24:36,159
remember but then we started going to

2025
01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:37,760
locations we had never

2026
01:24:42,070 --> 01:24:40,560
been in before and they were using our

2027
01:24:42,550 --> 01:24:42,080
name so i don't know if there's some

2028
01:24:46,070 --> 01:24:42,560
sort of

2029
01:24:49,110 --> 01:24:46,080
collective knowledge universal

2030
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:49,120
shared knowledge but we can walk into

2031
01:24:53,110 --> 01:24:50,880
almost anywhere and they will either

2032
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:53,120
call us by first name or last

2033
01:24:56,310 --> 01:24:55,600
or both should people ghost hunt their

2034
01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:56,320
own house

2035
01:25:01,669 --> 01:24:59,760
when they don't know what they're doing

2036
01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:01,679
if they don't know what they're doing

2037
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:03,040
and that answer

2038
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:11,400
more times than we look at cherie's

2039
01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:15,760
[Laughter]

2040
01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:19,040
oh my gosh jimmy off the record maybe

2041
01:25:23,830 --> 01:25:20,320
we'll tell you later

2042
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:23,840
yes all the spirit they follow us

2043
01:25:31,030 --> 01:25:27,840
at home do you guys sage the house

2044
01:25:31,590 --> 01:25:31,040
we never we've never well you might have

2045
01:25:37,750 --> 01:25:31,600
once

2046
01:25:38,229 --> 01:25:37,760
and not all of them but we've been very

2047
01:25:41,110 --> 01:25:38,239
lucky

2048
01:25:43,030 --> 01:25:41,120
we had we had a couple of vicious

2049
01:25:44,790 --> 01:25:43,040
experiences which we almost

2050
01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:44,800
quit go something that was probably

2051
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:46,080
seven years ago

2052
01:25:50,149 --> 01:25:49,600
right but everything that has been in

2053
01:25:53,590 --> 01:25:50,159
the house

2054
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:53,600
and i mean we've had stuff white figures

2055
01:25:55,990 --> 01:25:54,000
go

2056
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:56,000
right over our bed two in the morning

2057
01:26:01,350 --> 01:25:58,320
we've had shadows dart across

2058
01:26:03,030 --> 01:26:01,360
rooms duck in the hallways we had our

2059
01:26:04,629 --> 01:26:03,040
this was a couple years ago we had our

2060
01:26:06,310 --> 01:26:04,639
eight how old was she seventeen

2061
01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:06,320
eighteen she was eighteen she was

2062
01:26:10,070 --> 01:26:08,000
eighteen 2 o'clock in the morning

2063
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:10,080
we hear her bawling her eyes out she had

2064
01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:11,040
something

2065
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:13,920
in her room and we had to get rid of it

2066
01:26:17,510 --> 01:26:14,560
because it

2067
01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:17,520
literally was scaring her like crazy but

2068
01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:18,000
um

2069
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:20,159
we've been extremely fortunate with what

2070
01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:21,360
we have in

2071
01:26:24,550 --> 01:26:23,520
with how do you get rid of something

2072
01:26:27,189 --> 01:26:24,560
like that

2073
01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:27,199
funniest thing you'll ever imagine i did

2074
01:26:31,510 --> 01:26:28,960
a spirit box session

2075
01:26:32,470 --> 01:26:31,520
we told them here's the ground rules you

2076
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:32,480
want to talk to us

2077
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:35,280
fine you're not allowed in the kids room

2078
01:26:38,390 --> 01:26:36,480
they literally

2079
01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:38,400
explained to another spirit who said

2080
01:26:42,390 --> 01:26:39,760
which room is this

2081
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:42,400
they explained whose room it was across

2082
01:26:44,470 --> 01:26:42,800
from

2083
01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:44,480
said her son's name said it's across

2084
01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:47,040
from her's room they told us who was in

2085
01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:47,760
the room

2086
01:26:51,750 --> 01:26:49,840
and they apologized and it never

2087
01:26:53,830 --> 01:26:51,760
happened again

2088
01:26:55,350 --> 01:26:53,840
you've got to be kidding me no we have

2089
01:26:58,870 --> 01:26:55,360
it all on recording too

2090
01:27:02,310 --> 01:26:58,880
yeah wow and why okay

2091
01:27:03,270 --> 01:27:02,320
if somebody's uh ghost hunting in their

2092
01:27:05,750 --> 01:27:03,280
own house and they

2093
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:05,760
don't know what they're doing the

2094
01:27:09,110 --> 01:27:07,280
possibility is

2095
01:27:11,030 --> 01:27:09,120
you don't know who you're interacting

2096
01:27:14,390 --> 01:27:11,040
with right and it could be

2097
01:27:17,270 --> 01:27:14,400
something negative right you're you're

2098
01:27:18,950 --> 01:27:17,280
inviting that into your own home right

2099
01:27:21,030 --> 01:27:18,960
correct you're opening up a door

2100
01:27:23,270 --> 01:27:21,040
and the one thing you want to do before

2101
01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:23,280
you open any door is make sure you know

2102
01:27:27,830 --> 01:27:25,440
how to close it if you need to

2103
01:27:28,470 --> 01:27:27,840
and we've even made that mistake years

2104
01:27:32,790 --> 01:27:28,480
ago

2105
01:27:35,590 --> 01:27:32,800
but without knowledge without maybe um

2106
01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:35,600
understanding of what how a paranormal

2107
01:27:38,470 --> 01:27:36,480
investigation

2108
01:27:40,470 --> 01:27:38,480
works and what the dangers are without

2109
01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:40,480
training with a group that's done it

2110
01:27:44,390 --> 01:27:43,679
is experienced and professional you run

2111
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:44,400
the risk

2112
01:27:47,830 --> 01:27:46,000
i mean it's the reason why i'm not

2113
01:27:50,709 --> 01:27:47,840
pulling off the electrical panel

2114
01:27:52,470 --> 01:27:50,719
outside pulling out circuit breakers and

2115
01:27:54,149 --> 01:27:52,480
repairing them because i'm not trained

2116
01:27:55,990 --> 01:27:54,159
to do it and there's danger in it

2117
01:27:58,950 --> 01:27:56,000
it's the same thing with paranormal

2118
01:28:00,310 --> 01:27:58,960
investigation i had a strange thing

2119
01:28:02,709 --> 01:28:00,320
i'm i'm gonna spin around here for a

2120
01:28:05,990 --> 01:28:02,719
second and i'm gonna grab

2121
01:28:08,390 --> 01:28:06,000
okay so um i've told

2122
01:28:09,750 --> 01:28:08,400
the story before in the air but i'll

2123
01:28:12,790 --> 01:28:09,760
tell you guys

2124
01:28:16,070 --> 01:28:12,800
this is uh a little voodoo doll of

2125
01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:16,080
of me okay all right we're gonna fade to

2126
01:28:18,709 --> 01:28:16,480
black

2127
01:28:20,229 --> 01:28:18,719
shirt right he's got a little guitar

2128
01:28:23,510 --> 01:28:20,239
that goes with him

2129
01:28:25,510 --> 01:28:23,520
and and he's he's pretty cool right okay

2130
01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:25,520
that's awesome all right there he is and

2131
01:28:30,470 --> 01:28:27,440
i'm holding it up to both cameras

2132
01:28:32,229 --> 01:28:30,480
and uh this was sent to me um uh one of

2133
01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:32,239
the fader knots their mom made this for

2134
01:28:37,590 --> 01:28:34,159
me and he's incredible right

2135
01:28:38,950 --> 01:28:37,600
yeah um and i started uh to notice so i

2136
01:28:41,510 --> 01:28:38,960
had him standing up

2137
01:28:42,790 --> 01:28:41,520
in in the back of the studio and i would

2138
01:28:45,990 --> 01:28:42,800
come in

2139
01:28:49,270 --> 01:28:46,000
and he would be moved look look i

2140
01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:49,280
i i'm not taking the bait on this

2141
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:51,760
i'm not and i'm not gonna sound crazy

2142
01:28:56,229 --> 01:28:53,760
but it happened like three times

2143
01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:56,239
i kept going up and i put him back up

2144
01:28:59,669 --> 01:28:57,440
and i'm thinking okay he's

2145
01:29:01,110 --> 01:28:59,679
he's fault but he was like in a

2146
01:29:04,550 --> 01:29:01,120
different spot

2147
01:29:09,110 --> 01:29:04,560
like moved now i keep him

2148
01:29:11,510 --> 01:29:09,120
laid down on the desk

2149
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:11,520
with the frigging pair of pliers on his

2150
01:29:15,030 --> 01:29:12,330
chest

2151
01:29:18,550 --> 01:29:15,040
[Laughter]

2152
01:29:22,390 --> 01:29:18,560
okay hasn't moved hasn't moved since

2153
01:29:25,590 --> 01:29:22,400
but i had to spin around and and so i

2154
01:29:29,350 --> 01:29:25,600
i i keep him on lockdown well you know

2155
01:29:32,550 --> 01:29:29,360
dolls are very well known for being able

2156
01:29:36,229 --> 01:29:32,560
to attract spiritual energy and become

2157
01:29:38,550 --> 01:29:36,239
possessed items so could that

2158
01:29:40,950 --> 01:29:38,560
doll be able to pick up something or

2159
01:29:41,510 --> 01:29:40,960
could you transmit some sort of energy

2160
01:29:43,910 --> 01:29:41,520
to it

2161
01:29:45,350 --> 01:29:43,920
yeah you could and you know they had to

2162
01:29:46,709 --> 01:29:45,360
tell me when they sent it to me here's

2163
01:29:49,590 --> 01:29:46,719
your voodoo doll

2164
01:29:52,550 --> 01:29:49,600
so that just freaked me out you know one

2165
01:29:55,270 --> 01:29:52,560
one step further okay we've got uh

2166
01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:55,280
oh man should we do no i'm out of time

2167
01:29:57,990 --> 01:29:56,880
okay i gotta take a break right here so

2168
01:30:00,950 --> 01:29:58,000
let's go ahead and get this

2169
01:30:03,510 --> 01:30:00,960
in fade to black tony and sheree rathman

2170
01:30:05,430 --> 01:30:03,520
are here with us tonight evpi out of

2171
01:30:08,310 --> 01:30:05,440
phoenix ghost hunting

2172
01:30:10,310 --> 01:30:08,320
i've got a a bunch more evps we're going

2173
01:30:11,990 --> 01:30:10,320
to do and i've also got some images that

2174
01:30:13,510 --> 01:30:12,000
we're going to post up to as well

2175
01:30:22,820 --> 01:30:13,520
this is fade to black i'm yours to me

2176
01:30:22,830 --> 01:30:29,750
[Music]

2177
01:30:35,990 --> 01:30:32,870
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2178
01:30:37,830 --> 01:30:36,000
you're listening to fade to black

2179
01:30:39,910 --> 01:30:37,840
always on the edge of the hottest

2180
01:30:57,830 --> 01:30:39,920
alternative talk jimmy church

2181
01:31:02,550 --> 01:30:59,910
do you want to be an official fate or

2182
01:31:03,990 --> 01:31:02,560
not of course you do this is jimmy

2183
01:31:06,990 --> 01:31:04,000
church of fade to black

2184
01:31:09,030 --> 01:31:07,000
just go to our membership section at

2185
01:31:10,950 --> 01:31:09,040
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2186
01:31:12,790 --> 01:31:10,960
fader knots when you think about the

2187
01:31:14,709 --> 01:31:12,800
future of our country and where we're

2188
01:31:15,590 --> 01:31:14,719
headed do you wonder about the food

2189
01:31:19,750 --> 01:31:15,600
supply

2190
01:31:21,910 --> 01:31:19,760
chain could be disastrous

2191
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and they usually occur with little

2192
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warning that's why the smartest thing

2193
01:31:28,390 --> 01:31:25,199
you can do today

2194
01:31:30,709 --> 01:31:28,400
is to stockpile emergency food water

2195
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2196
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recommend my

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2198
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2200
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2201
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2202
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2206
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2209
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2227
01:33:00,870 --> 01:32:56,880
to black with jimmy church

2228
01:33:04,470 --> 01:33:03,430
hi i'm reece vance you're listening to

2229
01:33:07,590 --> 01:33:04,480
jimmy church

2230
01:33:08,950 --> 01:33:07,600
this is revolution the revolution will

2231
01:33:20,830 --> 01:33:08,960
not be televised

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ciao

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church somebody just posted our

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guest tonight

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tony and sheree rathman evpi out of

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phoenix somebody just post

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put the voodoo doll get cameras on it

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take the pliers off

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see what happens i don't want to know i

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i i

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i don't want to know uh check this out

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i've told the story so many times but

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you guys are gonna love this

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this was maybe four or five years ago

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and uh

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rita and i we're in our bedroom and

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at the foot of our bed is the

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the bathroom door right it's a sweet

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01:34:36,470 --> 01:34:35,520
thing and then so you go through the

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01:34:38,950 --> 01:34:36,480
bathroom door

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into the there but then to the left of

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that

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is the john room and it's you know it's

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the the toilets in there the the the

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commode

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01:34:50,950 --> 01:34:49,440
but that's got its own door okay so it's

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01:34:54,310 --> 01:34:50,960
like a separate

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right okay so but in there the

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the toilet the lid

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was it was sticky in other words it

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wouldn't

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you had to you couldn't just like tap it

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and it would close by itself and slam

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01:35:15,990 --> 01:35:10,880
right you had to go yeah you know and

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and and push it down um and so

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one night rita and i are in the bedroom

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01:35:27,510 --> 01:35:22,400
and we're watching tv and

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okay now something we've never heard

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before

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right and and i look at rita

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and she's looking at me and this is what

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01:35:43,750 --> 01:35:42,239
i know i could read her mind

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so you're gonna are you gonna go check

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it out

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[Laughter]

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and i i'm not going in there

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i don't want to know you know and and

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uh so i do i go in and i'm looking and

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it's down

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and i'm like confused and i pick it up

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01:36:07,910 --> 01:36:04,800
it's sticky right and i

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01:36:10,950 --> 01:36:07,920
push it i'm like oh man that

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01:36:14,070 --> 01:36:10,960
just wasn't cool that wasn't cool

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01:36:16,070 --> 01:36:14,080
now uh it never happened again but it

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01:36:19,350 --> 01:36:16,080
did that night and it was

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uh like i said i don't want to know i i

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01:36:21,750 --> 01:36:20,960
don't want to know what's going on in my

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house

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i don't want to i i i'm not gonna film

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let's leave the pliers on his chest

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01:36:39,430 --> 01:36:36,159
good enough for me okay this next uh evp

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01:36:40,550 --> 01:36:39,440
is called were sorry now i i saw this

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01:36:42,310 --> 01:36:40,560
said i was like i don't even want to

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listen to this

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i don't wanna i don't wanna hear this

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one where was this recorded

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you go ahead that was you is this the

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one with um

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um

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one of the residential investigation we

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did yep

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and clear the spirits out and we missed

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a couple

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so this was the third time and we

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brought another

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um spirit remover with us

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and cherie was explaining to them that

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they

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scaring the people she's got a baby on

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the way

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and uh yeah you can play it from there

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yeah now is this done

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at night yes are you guys in the dark

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i think there was a light on we weren't

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in the pitch black okay you're not pitch

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black but it's at night and you're in

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the home you're in the baby's room

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you better leave this house you are not

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dude

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yup they apologized okay

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one more time everybody apparently

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i believe yeah i would apologize okay

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here we go one more time

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in the baby's room you better leave this

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that's nuts i'm by myself and i closed

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the door

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in that baby's room yep that is

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absolutely

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crystal clear sheree did you hear

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anything

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no i did not just by the recorder

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wow but the feeling but when i was there

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the feeling

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i get this goosebump but it's yeah

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you can feel it there was a there was an

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energy in that house no

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right and you've got to throw in you

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know the bonus

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uh you know it's the baby's room right

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and and there you go okay i've got to

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hear this one more time

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i i can't wait i want everybody's

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reactions here

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in uh twitter what do you think about

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01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:10,400
this it's incredible here we go

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you better leave this house you are not

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wow and that's a male voice that's a

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male voice

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i mean goose bumps right dude do you

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guys still get the goosebumps when you

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hear stuff like this

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i do um

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we've been accustomed to so much over

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the the

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last decade but yeah goosebumps still

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happen

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during investigations uh the

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excitement's still there when you get

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great evps

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it never it never ends and you never

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know what you're gonna run into next so

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that's

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on guard and you got to be aware of your

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surroundings

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now uh so after this that was the third

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trip to the house

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uh was everything cleared after the

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apology

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uh it was uh but we also had the house

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when we brought um joe joe with us

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joe put um he cleaned the yard

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meeting not like raking leaves i mean he

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cleared

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what he said were portals there was a

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portal open in the backyard

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we put uh blessed coins in every corner

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of the yard to create a

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uh a barrier for them not to be able to

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cross back in and yes

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after the third time they did not ever

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01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:39,840
have a problem again

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01:40:44,210 --> 01:40:42,480
madeleine just uh posted up sure she

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01:40:46,709 --> 01:40:44,220
says i'm home alone listening

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01:40:48,629 --> 01:40:46,719
[Laughter]

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she goes i've got one of those active

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imaginations and i

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scare easily oh madeline just stop

2390
01:40:58,149 --> 01:40:56,880
okay just for madeline i'm gonna play

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01:41:01,510 --> 01:40:58,159
this one more time

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if you better leave this house you are

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01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:01,920
not

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01:41:11,189 --> 01:41:10,709
man that's it that's a good one that's a

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01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:11,199
good one

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okay now um this is what's really

2397
01:41:19,189 --> 01:41:15,119
strange

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as as great as those three are

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01:41:25,830 --> 01:41:22,639
you guys it's valentine's day uh

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you go out for date night right

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01:41:30,310 --> 01:41:27,840
and you guys went and did an

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01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:30,320
investigation this past sunday

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um where uh absolute

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01:41:39,030 --> 01:41:37,040
uh evp gold um uh

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01:41:40,310 --> 01:41:39,040
what was caught this night does it

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happen

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01:41:47,030 --> 01:41:43,520
like this that often where

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uh you get this kind of action

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01:41:53,990 --> 01:41:51,040
not like we got on that valentine's day

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night we got lucky although we were

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01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:55,199
there for hours

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01:41:58,950 --> 01:41:57,600
um and we do this almost every

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valentine's now because that was the

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first time she ever dragged me out 11

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01:42:03,590 --> 01:42:01,920
years ago

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01:42:05,109 --> 01:42:03,600
so now every valentine's day we go

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01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:05,119
investigating but no

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01:42:08,390 --> 01:42:07,440
this was some this was some unique

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01:42:11,350 --> 01:42:08,400
captures

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01:42:12,629 --> 01:42:11,360
uh because they gave names they gave all

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01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:12,639
sorts of other things

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01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:15,040
but the other advantage for us is that

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01:42:19,990 --> 01:42:16,480
it was in

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01:42:20,310 --> 01:42:20,000
the um old phelps dodge hospital which

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01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:20,320
we

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01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:22,960
run as the copper canyon paranormal

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01:42:28,390 --> 01:42:25,040
research center and have for the last

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01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:28,400
three or four years now and uh what part

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01:42:31,910 --> 01:42:28,960
of uh

2430
01:42:33,990 --> 01:42:31,920
so this is local this is in phoenix no

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01:42:36,149 --> 01:42:34,000
it's actually about an hour and a half

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01:42:37,270 --> 01:42:36,159
outside of phoenix um it's in a small

2433
01:42:40,550 --> 01:42:37,280
town called

2434
01:42:43,189 --> 01:42:40,560
ajo arizona okay got you got you

2435
01:42:45,189 --> 01:42:43,199
um and uh a couple of setups here are

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01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:45,199
you guys there at night

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01:42:55,030 --> 01:42:51,830
um i i went through these uh

2438
01:42:59,109 --> 01:42:55,040
today and and listened to these and

2439
01:43:02,550 --> 01:42:59,119
i immediately uh called tony and went

2440
01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:02,560
wow and you were just laughing right

2441
01:43:07,750 --> 01:43:05,199
because you know exactly what i'm

2442
01:43:11,350 --> 01:43:07,760
thinking you know what you sent me

2443
01:43:14,629 --> 01:43:11,360
right um when you walk away from that

2444
01:43:16,310 --> 01:43:14,639
how much of this did you know that you

2445
01:43:17,830 --> 01:43:16,320
captured because you're wrapping up

2446
01:43:18,709 --> 01:43:17,840
you're packing up the gear you got to go

2447
01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:18,719
home

2448
01:43:24,070 --> 01:43:21,840
did any of this uh was any of this

2449
01:43:24,950 --> 01:43:24,080
audible or did you catch this after the

2450
01:43:46,709 --> 01:43:24,960
fact

2451
01:43:49,910 --> 01:43:48,870
part of the hotel that's not even used

2452
01:43:52,709 --> 01:43:49,920
anymore

2453
01:43:54,950 --> 01:43:52,719
it's only sheree and i there's probably

2454
01:43:58,550 --> 01:43:54,960
not another person within

2455
01:44:00,790 --> 01:43:58,560
a thousand feet of us or or more

2456
01:44:01,990 --> 01:44:00,800
we're the only two in this tiny little

2457
01:44:04,950 --> 01:44:02,000
office

2458
01:44:07,350 --> 01:44:04,960
and sheree asked me should i turn out

2459
01:44:10,709 --> 01:44:07,360
the lights i said no it doesn't matter

2460
01:44:11,750 --> 01:44:10,719
this woman's voice comes in as loud as

2461
01:44:16,790 --> 01:44:11,760
ours if not

2462
01:44:20,709 --> 01:44:16,800
louder and says because i am the light

2463
01:44:30,950 --> 01:44:20,719
that's all you gotta know here we go

2464
01:44:36,550 --> 01:44:34,229
i mean come on now right

2465
01:44:37,590 --> 01:44:36,560
now the first one is me yeah no the

2466
01:44:40,709 --> 01:44:37,600
first one is you

2467
01:44:44,070 --> 01:44:40,719
right but yeah it is absolutely

2468
01:44:45,990 --> 01:44:44,080
right there and and in your face

2469
01:44:48,390 --> 01:44:46,000
right right in between the two of us

2470
01:44:49,990 --> 01:44:48,400
speaking we did not hear that with our

2471
01:44:52,870 --> 01:44:50,000
own ears

2472
01:44:54,470 --> 01:44:52,880
and she got mad at me because she's like

2473
01:44:54,790 --> 01:44:54,480
that's not my voice that's not my voice

2474
01:44:58,870 --> 01:44:54,800
she

2475
01:45:03,350 --> 01:44:58,880
you're right i said it sounds sexy

2476
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:03,360
and then sheree's like what

2477
01:45:15,350 --> 01:45:05,920
that's actually a really good point um

2478
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:19,990
it doesn't again what is going on there

2479
01:45:23,990 --> 01:45:21,840
that that was one of the first ones we

2480
01:45:27,430 --> 01:45:24,000
ever recorded that was

2481
01:45:28,070 --> 01:45:27,440
so loud and it sounded like normal

2482
01:45:30,229 --> 01:45:28,080
speech

2483
01:45:31,109 --> 01:45:30,239
yes that we we must have listened to

2484
01:45:34,149 --> 01:45:31,119
that thing

2485
01:45:36,229 --> 01:45:34,159
500 times multiple times um

2486
01:45:38,229 --> 01:45:36,239
but it there was no one else there there

2487
01:45:39,510 --> 01:45:38,239
was no one else around there was no one

2488
01:45:41,030 --> 01:45:39,520
else in the room

2489
01:45:43,189 --> 01:45:41,040
and that appeared matter of fact we

2490
01:45:45,750 --> 01:45:43,199
we've got it on actual video too you can

2491
01:45:46,390 --> 01:45:45,760
see the door is closed it's just sheree

2492
01:45:48,229 --> 01:45:46,400
and i

2493
01:45:49,510 --> 01:45:48,239
and this woman's voice just shows up

2494
01:45:52,790 --> 01:45:49,520
it's a modern

2495
01:45:55,510 --> 01:45:52,800
voice right that is

2496
01:45:56,149 --> 01:45:55,520
that is uh okay let's listen to this

2497
01:45:59,510 --> 01:45:56,159
again

2498
01:46:04,070 --> 01:45:59,520
and everybody can hear it but it's

2499
01:46:07,430 --> 01:46:04,080
the it let's think about the period here

2500
01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:07,440
right it sounds like yesterday

2501
01:46:18,870 --> 01:46:09,360
i guess is the best way to explain it

2502
01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:22,149
that is freaking amazing that's that one

2503
01:46:25,510 --> 01:46:23,040
is so clear

2504
01:46:26,229 --> 01:46:25,520
yeah i feel like she's right in front of

2505
01:46:28,629 --> 01:46:26,239
that she's

2506
01:46:30,950 --> 01:46:28,639
right between us she had to have been

2507
01:46:33,590 --> 01:46:30,960
well i'm listening to it in stereo

2508
01:46:34,470 --> 01:46:33,600
and you're right about that it's just

2509
01:46:37,109 --> 01:46:34,480
right here

2510
01:46:37,590 --> 01:46:37,119
right in the center i'm gonna play this

2511
01:46:39,910 --> 01:46:37,600
one

2512
01:46:40,790 --> 01:46:39,920
more time before we move on it's just

2513
01:46:47,030 --> 01:46:40,800
it's it's

2514
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:51,750
it doesn't have to be it doesn't stop

2515
01:46:57,669 --> 01:46:55,430
it's just that is just incredible

2516
01:46:58,790 --> 01:46:57,679
well we're going to move on we've got so

2517
01:47:02,310 --> 01:46:58,800
many other uh

2518
01:47:02,870 --> 01:47:02,320
evps here um but when you listen to i

2519
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:02,880
mean

2520
01:47:06,070 --> 01:47:05,040
seriously right do you have to pinch

2521
01:47:09,109 --> 01:47:06,080
yourself that

2522
01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:09,119
that is an incredible you don't have to

2523
01:47:11,830 --> 01:47:09,920
guess

2524
01:47:14,070 --> 01:47:11,840
you're not wondering you guys didn't

2525
01:47:16,629 --> 01:47:14,080
have a debate over this one did you

2526
01:47:17,750 --> 01:47:16,639
no no we were so shocked when we heard

2527
01:47:18,790 --> 01:47:17,760
it matter of fact i think we were

2528
01:47:20,950 --> 01:47:18,800
driving home

2529
01:47:22,390 --> 01:47:20,960
yes when we were listening we're

2530
01:47:24,229 --> 01:47:22,400
starting to review

2531
01:47:26,070 --> 01:47:24,239
and that came right up we're listening

2532
01:47:28,149 --> 01:47:26,080
to it in the car and i'm like

2533
01:47:29,830 --> 01:47:28,159
tony's asking me is that you is that you

2534
01:47:30,709 --> 01:47:29,840
i'm like what the hell was that who was

2535
01:47:32,310 --> 01:47:30,719
that

2536
01:47:34,470 --> 01:47:32,320
well we didn't think it was paranormal

2537
01:47:35,990 --> 01:47:34,480
at first no i'm gonna play it one more

2538
01:47:39,109 --> 01:47:36,000
time it's it's interesting

2539
01:47:40,550 --> 01:47:39,119
because when cherie says should we turn

2540
01:47:43,590 --> 01:47:40,560
off the lights

2541
01:47:53,030 --> 01:47:43,600
the answer is right on top of cherie

2542
01:47:57,830 --> 01:47:55,830
that place is haunted man oh that place

2543
01:48:01,030 --> 01:47:57,840
is unbelievably hot

2544
01:48:03,750 --> 01:48:01,040
that place is hot tid

2545
01:48:04,870 --> 01:48:03,760
han did that's incredible okay the next

2546
01:48:08,870 --> 01:48:04,880
one

2547
01:48:12,470 --> 01:48:08,880
um is uh uh

2548
01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:12,480
don't stand there okay

2549
01:48:15,990 --> 01:48:14,800
that was in the phelps dodge hospital

2550
01:48:17,830 --> 01:48:16,000
and um

2551
01:48:19,990 --> 01:48:17,840
i'm standing in the middle of a hallway

2552
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:20,000
outside of the main surgery room

2553
01:48:24,229 --> 01:48:22,560
and i'm running a camera and you can go

2554
01:48:33,750 --> 01:48:24,239
ahead and play it and they'll hear

2555
01:48:37,510 --> 01:48:33,760
exactly what i was told here we go

2556
01:48:40,709 --> 01:48:37,520
i mean okay that's angry

2557
01:48:42,629 --> 01:48:40,719
that's angry that's loud and it is so

2558
01:48:45,510 --> 01:48:42,639
loud there's right there's even an

2559
01:48:47,590 --> 01:48:45,520
echo to it yeah yet i did not hear that

2560
01:48:48,310 --> 01:48:47,600
with my own ears and only showed up on

2561
01:48:56,229 --> 01:48:48,320
the recording

2562
01:49:03,030 --> 01:49:00,790
that ah if you would have heard that

2563
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:03,040
at that time do you move out of the

2564
01:49:06,390 --> 01:49:04,480
hallway

2565
01:49:08,229 --> 01:49:06,400
i probably would have moved just because

2566
01:49:08,550 --> 01:49:08,239
they requested it i probably wouldn't

2567
01:49:12,950 --> 01:49:08,560
have

2568
01:49:15,589 --> 01:49:12,960
moved just out of respect yeah

2569
01:49:16,550 --> 01:49:15,599
now am i wrong in saying that is almost

2570
01:49:18,870 --> 01:49:16,560
uh

2571
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:18,880
i said angry i don't want to use the

2572
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:20,320
word demonic

2573
01:49:23,589 --> 01:49:22,480
but it almost sounds like a demonic male

2574
01:49:26,830 --> 01:49:23,599
vo you know

2575
01:49:29,270 --> 01:49:26,840
something uh definitely trying to be

2576
01:49:30,709 --> 01:49:29,280
assertive definitely assertive with

2577
01:49:32,950 --> 01:49:30,719
without a doubt

2578
01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:32,960
um i don't think i would say demonic i

2579
01:49:36,550 --> 01:49:35,040
mean we've spent so much time there

2580
01:49:39,430 --> 01:49:36,560
there's nothing demonic there there's

2581
01:49:42,870 --> 01:49:39,440
some evil and mean ones

2582
01:49:45,589 --> 01:49:42,880
probably not yeah well

2583
01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:45,599
that's why i hesitated in in using the

2584
01:49:48,310 --> 01:49:46,560
word

2585
01:49:50,950 --> 01:49:48,320
but people are gonna hear what they're

2586
01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:50,960
going to hear and that is a straight out

2587
01:49:55,990 --> 01:49:54,560
you know get out right true

2588
01:49:57,589 --> 01:49:56,000
you're you're absolutely right okay i'm

2589
01:50:05,750 --> 01:49:57,599
going to play yeah

2590
01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:09,510
man that is just awesome

2591
01:50:13,750 --> 01:50:12,560
that is just awesome okay i'm looking at

2592
01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:13,760
the clock we got

2593
01:50:17,750 --> 01:50:15,360
we got enough time to get all of these

2594
01:50:18,870 --> 01:50:17,760
in well maybe not we'll come back after

2595
01:50:21,910 --> 01:50:18,880
the break

2596
01:50:24,070 --> 01:50:21,920
um this next one is interesting

2597
01:50:25,510 --> 01:50:24,080
because and i play this a bunch of times

2598
01:50:29,109 --> 01:50:25,520
today

2599
01:50:32,310 --> 01:50:29,119
this is in an elevator and

2600
01:50:33,750 --> 01:50:32,320
you are are you by yourself tony i am

2601
01:50:36,149 --> 01:50:33,760
i'm completely alone

2602
01:50:38,070 --> 01:50:36,159
cherie was already up in the room i was

2603
01:50:41,109 --> 01:50:38,080
getting the bags out of the car

2604
01:50:43,430 --> 01:50:41,119
coming up the elevator and this voice

2605
01:50:46,790 --> 01:50:43,440
comes out of nowhere

2606
01:50:48,550 --> 01:50:46,800
and um i'll let you play it first before

2607
01:50:51,589 --> 01:50:48,560
i explain the rest of it but

2608
01:50:51,990 --> 01:50:51,599
there's there's things within the voice

2609
01:50:54,470 --> 01:50:52,000
that

2610
01:50:55,589 --> 01:50:54,480
give me very good indication of of

2611
01:50:58,950 --> 01:50:55,599
things about

2612
01:51:01,270 --> 01:50:58,960
uh who said it so and um

2613
01:51:02,870 --> 01:51:01,280
so you're getting you've got the bags

2614
01:51:04,070 --> 01:51:02,880
you're getting on the elevator but

2615
01:51:07,109 --> 01:51:04,080
you're recording

2616
01:51:09,350 --> 01:51:07,119
are you recording all the time well

2617
01:51:10,870 --> 01:51:09,360
cherie's the best at that because she

2618
01:51:13,589 --> 01:51:10,880
records

2619
01:51:15,350 --> 01:51:13,599
constantly she will videotape she will

2620
01:51:17,510 --> 01:51:15,360
have recorders running

2621
01:51:19,030 --> 01:51:17,520
all the time and a lot of times i'll

2622
01:51:20,310 --> 01:51:19,040
tell her wait you know we're not ready

2623
01:51:23,430 --> 01:51:20,320
yet she's like i don't care

2624
01:51:24,229 --> 01:51:23,440
i'm recording and she catches awesome

2625
01:51:25,830 --> 01:51:24,239
stuff

2626
01:51:27,350 --> 01:51:25,840
that we may not have caught during the

2627
01:51:28,709 --> 01:51:27,360
investigation because she had him

2628
01:51:30,790 --> 01:51:28,719
running yeah even though

2629
01:51:32,950 --> 01:51:30,800
when we're not investigating i'm still

2630
01:51:33,589 --> 01:51:32,960
recording even when we're driving in the

2631
01:51:37,589 --> 01:51:33,599
car

2632
01:51:40,390 --> 01:51:37,599
and

2633
01:51:41,109 --> 01:51:40,400
because of the setup that we're doing

2634
01:51:43,109 --> 01:51:41,119
here

2635
01:51:44,550 --> 01:51:43,119
now you know it's an elevator so you can

2636
01:51:48,229 --> 01:51:44,560
hear the elevator door

2637
01:51:51,669 --> 01:51:48,239
open and close you can hear you step in

2638
01:51:53,589 --> 01:51:51,679
and you're picturing uh i i

2639
01:51:55,589 --> 01:51:53,599
assumed you were by yourself i didn't

2640
01:51:57,430 --> 01:51:55,599
ask you by the way everybody tony and i

2641
01:51:59,910 --> 01:51:57,440
have not gone through this

2642
01:52:00,709 --> 01:51:59,920
and discussed any of this i refuse to do

2643
01:52:03,750 --> 01:52:00,719
that

2644
01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:03,760
uh before the show um so

2645
01:52:08,870 --> 01:52:06,880
uh but i'm visualizing you stepping into

2646
01:52:10,310 --> 01:52:08,880
this elevator i'm almost picturing like

2647
01:52:12,790 --> 01:52:10,320
the stanley hotel right

2648
01:52:14,229 --> 01:52:12,800
like the shiny this is this is an old

2649
01:52:17,430 --> 01:52:14,239
elevator that's got a

2650
01:52:20,229 --> 01:52:17,440
a crank gate that would go shut you can

2651
01:52:23,109 --> 01:52:20,239
see through the gate as the floors go by

2652
01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:23,119
you can hear you can hear all of that in

2653
01:52:51,430 --> 01:52:23,520
in

2654
01:52:59,030 --> 01:52:54,709
okay she says tony right now

2655
01:53:01,189 --> 01:52:59,040
um what are we hearing here

2656
01:53:02,149 --> 01:53:01,199
that sounds like okay for me i don't

2657
01:53:04,550 --> 01:53:02,159
want to load

2658
01:53:05,589 --> 01:53:04,560
this up in advance that sounds like a

2659
01:53:08,870 --> 01:53:05,599
little girl

2660
01:53:12,070 --> 01:53:08,880
yep it's it's definitely a a a

2661
01:53:15,270 --> 01:53:12,080
child yeah i would say seven eight

2662
01:53:18,790 --> 01:53:15,280
nine ten maybe at the most but yes

2663
01:53:21,270 --> 01:53:18,800
um and she called me by name

2664
01:53:22,149 --> 01:53:21,280
she said tony and then the strangest

2665
01:53:24,790 --> 01:53:22,159
thing i've ever heard

2666
01:53:25,750 --> 01:53:24,800
she's like keep it bad i have no idea

2667
01:53:28,950 --> 01:53:25,760
even what

2668
01:53:31,990 --> 01:53:28,960
that was supposed to mean but it is so

2669
01:53:35,589 --> 01:53:32,000
clear that you couldn't miss it

2670
01:53:38,709 --> 01:53:35,599
now is there a history at this hotel uh

2671
01:53:40,790 --> 01:53:38,719
with a young girl that is

2672
01:53:41,750 --> 01:53:40,800
is lobster there's a huge history

2673
01:53:44,870 --> 01:53:41,760
because the

2674
01:53:45,430 --> 01:53:44,880
the hotel used to be a mining hospital

2675
01:53:51,750 --> 01:53:45,440
it's

2676
01:53:52,790 --> 01:53:51,760
um so it used to be a hospital for all

2677
01:53:55,910 --> 01:53:52,800
the miners that

2678
01:53:59,030 --> 01:53:55,920
mined there just like the one we operate

2679
01:54:00,550 --> 01:53:59,040
um it was also an insane asylum for a

2680
01:54:02,950 --> 01:54:00,560
small period of time

2681
01:54:03,830 --> 01:54:02,960
and then they turned it into a hotel so

2682
01:54:05,830 --> 01:54:03,840
there were

2683
01:54:07,109 --> 01:54:05,840
you know hundreds and hundreds of deaths

2684
01:54:11,109 --> 01:54:07,119
there were

2685
01:54:12,709 --> 01:54:11,119
all sorts of tragedies that occurred

2686
01:54:15,030 --> 01:54:12,719
so yeah it has a huge history i'm going

2687
01:54:34,950 --> 01:54:15,040
to play this one more time it's a couple

2688
01:54:39,990 --> 01:54:38,149
that's that's uh that freaks me out

2689
01:54:41,910 --> 01:54:40,000
that that that one's crazy no doubt

2690
01:55:01,669 --> 01:54:41,920
about it okay one more time i gotta hear

2691
01:55:01,679 --> 01:55:06,550
the sound effects in there just for

2692
01:55:11,030 --> 01:55:09,430
that that's like that's like silent hill

2693
01:55:14,149 --> 01:55:11,040
that's like a video game

2694
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:14,159
that is absolutely crazy yeah

2695
01:55:18,470 --> 01:55:15,920
it's kind of creepy too because it

2696
01:55:21,910 --> 01:55:18,480
there's a weird tonality to the voice

2697
01:55:24,470 --> 01:55:21,920
and the voice is so clear and so loud

2698
01:55:26,229 --> 01:55:24,480
but yet you can't get any direction from

2699
01:55:27,990 --> 01:55:26,239
where it came from from the recording

2700
01:55:29,430 --> 01:55:28,000
just like when we were on the queen mary

2701
01:55:31,510 --> 01:55:29,440
we were both trying to figure out what

2702
01:55:34,149 --> 01:55:31,520
direction that came from when you

2703
01:55:35,990 --> 01:55:34,159
hear direct voice response now that one

2704
01:55:38,629 --> 01:55:36,000
wasn't it was an evp so

2705
01:55:40,070 --> 01:55:38,639
only the machine could identify but

2706
01:55:42,310 --> 01:55:40,080
normally when you hear direct

2707
01:55:43,669 --> 01:55:42,320
voice response you can't tell what

2708
01:55:46,390 --> 01:55:43,679
direction it's coming from now

2709
01:55:50,310 --> 01:55:46,400
uh the sentence if we you know put the

2710
01:55:53,350 --> 01:55:50,320
sentence together tony keep it bad

2711
01:55:56,070 --> 01:55:53,360
did did you guys have bad experiences

2712
01:55:58,830 --> 01:55:56,080
was there anything you know negative uh

2713
01:56:03,910 --> 01:56:02,229
no i don't it it almost sounded like uh

2714
01:56:05,990 --> 01:56:03,920
that's our anniversary wedding

2715
01:56:06,709 --> 01:56:06,000
anniversary oh my god it was you're

2716
01:56:12,470 --> 01:56:06,719
right

2717
01:56:14,709 --> 01:56:12,480
thing um you project positive vibes

2718
01:56:15,750 --> 01:56:14,719
right spirit's picking up on that

2719
01:56:19,669 --> 01:56:15,760
they're like no

2720
01:56:23,270 --> 01:56:19,679
no no fun on this trip

2721
01:56:24,470 --> 01:56:23,280
keep it bad well i'm thinking it's slang

2722
01:56:25,589 --> 01:56:24,480
like you know when you say oh you know

2723
01:56:28,709 --> 01:56:25,599
that's bad

2724
01:56:29,669 --> 01:56:28,719
you know it means it's good and so you

2725
01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:29,679
keep thinking that

2726
01:56:34,870 --> 01:56:33,280
i'm gonna play this one more time for

2727
01:56:47,109 --> 01:56:34,880
everybody as we go into the break here

2728
01:56:59,030 --> 01:56:56,149
oh man that is crazy man

2729
01:56:59,589 --> 01:56:59,040
that it's just awesome that is just

2730
01:57:03,189 --> 01:56:59,599
awesome

2731
01:57:05,990 --> 01:57:03,199
right here we've got uh

2732
01:57:07,589 --> 01:57:06,000
some more stuff and also we've got three

2733
01:57:10,790 --> 01:57:07,599
images that we're gonna do

2734
01:57:12,709 --> 01:57:10,800
um after the break uh too as well how

2735
01:57:14,950 --> 01:57:12,719
often do you guys capture stuff

2736
01:57:16,229 --> 01:57:14,960
uh it's it's you guys are known for your

2737
01:57:18,310 --> 01:57:16,239
focus on that

2738
01:57:19,589 --> 01:57:18,320
how often do you cat we've got three

2739
01:57:21,990 --> 01:57:19,599
incredible images

2740
01:57:23,350 --> 01:57:22,000
uh that we're gonna share with everybody

2741
01:57:26,470 --> 01:57:23,360
how often do you catch

2742
01:57:27,830 --> 01:57:26,480
this stuff it's much more rare

2743
01:57:30,149 --> 01:57:27,840
i mean you figure if we said we've been

2744
01:57:33,030 --> 01:57:30,159
doing this 11 years i think i sent you

2745
01:57:34,629 --> 01:57:33,040
three uh they're much more rare

2746
01:57:36,870 --> 01:57:34,639
especially in a photograph we've

2747
01:57:40,229 --> 01:57:36,880
captured stuff on flear

2748
01:57:44,310 --> 01:57:40,239
images uh but photographs are much

2749
01:57:47,030 --> 01:57:44,320
more difficult i i am of the opinion

2750
01:57:48,310 --> 01:57:47,040
now there's stuff with flear i get that

2751
01:57:51,669 --> 01:57:48,320
and infrared i

2752
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:51,679
i understand that but it's something

2753
01:57:54,950 --> 01:57:52,000
else

2754
01:57:55,910 --> 01:57:54,960
when it is just a straight shot yep yeah

2755
01:57:59,270 --> 01:57:55,920
i agree

2756
01:58:02,790 --> 01:57:59,280
right i mean uh flear i did again

2757
01:58:05,990 --> 01:58:02,800
i'm not discounting any of that um and

2758
01:58:09,189 --> 01:58:06,000
and and the infrared stuff um

2759
01:58:12,149 --> 01:58:09,199
but i always consider uh

2760
01:58:13,270 --> 01:58:12,159
it's it's not physical but when you when

2761
01:58:16,870 --> 01:58:13,280
you get the straight

2762
01:58:19,750 --> 01:58:16,880
shot now it is capturing something that

2763
01:58:21,109 --> 01:58:19,760
is real right and i'm not saying that

2764
01:58:23,350 --> 01:58:21,119
flair is not real and i'm

2765
01:58:24,629 --> 01:58:23,360
saying infrared is not real but it's

2766
01:58:27,990 --> 01:58:24,639
something else when it

2767
01:58:29,669 --> 01:58:28,000
is physical and that's what yeah the

2768
01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:29,679
camera's capturing visible

2769
01:58:33,990 --> 01:58:32,560
light that your eye would see and so

2770
01:58:36,709 --> 01:58:34,000
it's capturing an image that

2771
01:58:38,629 --> 01:58:36,719
the unless it's a full spectrum camera

2772
01:58:39,750 --> 01:58:38,639
your eye would be able to see as long as

2773
01:58:41,350 --> 01:58:39,760
it's visible light

2774
01:58:42,629 --> 01:58:41,360
and so yeah the camera caught something

2775
01:58:43,510 --> 01:58:42,639
that if you were looking in that

2776
01:58:45,430 --> 01:58:43,520
direction

2777
01:58:46,950 --> 01:58:45,440
you would have seen too absolutely

2778
01:58:48,390 --> 01:58:46,960
incredible stuff let's take our break

2779
01:58:50,709 --> 01:58:48,400
right here this is fade to black our

2780
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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network

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and kgra the global radio alliance

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church our guest tonight tony and

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02:02:54,310 --> 02:02:51,199
sheree rathman

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evp i out of phoenix and i

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just did a sneak peek for everybody the

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three images saving the best for last

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actually

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uh these three images are posted up in

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twitter uh

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you can follow me on twitter at

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jchurchradio you will see it right there

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in my feed

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and for all of you fader knots it's up

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in the sandbox at hashtag

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f2b those three images are there

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and they're incredible but we're gonna

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get to that in just a second

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02:03:23,430 --> 02:03:21,760
uh you guys have your own radio show you

2877
02:03:27,030 --> 02:03:23,440
guys are trying to steal my thunder

2878
02:03:27,990 --> 02:03:27,040
that's fine um but uh you guys have your

2879
02:03:31,109 --> 02:03:28,000
own radio show

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02:03:34,229 --> 02:03:31,119
um and tell us about that well

2881
02:03:35,189 --> 02:03:34,239
yes we do and we're actually on kgra as

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02:03:39,189 --> 02:03:35,199
well

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02:03:42,229 --> 02:03:39,199
um we wanted to be able to highlight

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02:03:44,149 --> 02:03:42,239
what other paranormal investigators

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02:03:46,070 --> 02:03:44,159
do because there's a ton of work that

2886
02:03:48,390 --> 02:03:46,080
goes into

2887
02:03:50,629 --> 02:03:48,400
going out on investigations acquiring

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02:03:51,589 --> 02:03:50,639
the equipment needed to do it the time

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02:03:55,669 --> 02:03:51,599
it takes

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02:03:57,669 --> 02:03:55,679
away from other activities the expense

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02:04:00,149 --> 02:03:57,679
to travel to get there to

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02:04:02,069 --> 02:04:00,159
to investigate and there's lots of

2893
02:04:03,109 --> 02:04:02,079
people out there doing it and capturing

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02:04:06,149 --> 02:04:03,119
great stuff

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02:04:07,430 --> 02:04:06,159
so this show is an opportunity for us to

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02:04:10,069 --> 02:04:07,440
be able to bring on

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02:04:11,430 --> 02:04:10,079
other people who do what we do and show

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02:04:14,950 --> 02:04:11,440
the amazing captures

2899
02:04:18,310 --> 02:04:14,960
that they've gotten now uh the gear

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02:04:18,790 --> 02:04:18,320
is is something that needs to be focused

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02:04:21,990 --> 02:04:18,800
on

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02:04:23,669 --> 02:04:22,000
and uh and people need help with those

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02:04:25,030 --> 02:04:23,679
selections but then there's the other

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02:04:28,550 --> 02:04:25,040
part

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02:04:31,910 --> 02:04:28,560
for me i love guitars right so

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02:04:34,950 --> 02:04:31,920
i have to sneak my guitars uh

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02:04:36,629 --> 02:04:34,960
uh when i when i purchase them right

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02:04:38,629 --> 02:04:36,639
okay you know because

2909
02:04:40,069 --> 02:04:38,639
you know it's it's just one of those

2910
02:04:41,110 --> 02:04:40,079
things rita's like you don't need

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02:04:43,270 --> 02:04:41,120
another one

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02:04:48,069 --> 02:04:43,280
[Laughter]

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02:04:52,310 --> 02:04:48,079
for you tony is is it okay do you

2914
02:04:54,229 --> 02:04:52,320
tell sheree okay uh i i i got another uh

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02:04:56,709 --> 02:04:54,239
i got another recorder i got another

2916
02:05:00,709 --> 02:04:56,719
parabolic mic i got another shotgun mic

2917
02:05:02,310 --> 02:05:00,719
i got a camera i just bought uh

2918
02:05:04,149 --> 02:05:02,320
another flare i just bought uh some

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02:05:06,870 --> 02:05:04,159
military night vision

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02:05:08,229 --> 02:05:06,880
um how does that process work at the

2921
02:05:10,470 --> 02:05:08,239
house

2922
02:05:12,390 --> 02:05:10,480
well here's the here's the advantage to

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02:05:14,709 --> 02:05:12,400
being husband and wife

2924
02:05:15,589 --> 02:05:14,719
paranormal investigators and we all have

2925
02:05:17,750 --> 02:05:15,599
the same passion

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02:05:18,950 --> 02:05:17,760
yeah i'll point it out and be like oh my

2927
02:05:20,709 --> 02:05:18,960
god look at this

2928
02:05:22,470 --> 02:05:20,719
next thing i know trees like i ordered

2929
02:05:26,149 --> 02:05:22,480
it i got it it's on its way

2930
02:05:28,629 --> 02:05:26,159
oh how cool is that now um

2931
02:05:29,750 --> 02:05:28,639
i don't really want to know the hard

2932
02:05:33,030 --> 02:05:29,760
figure

2933
02:05:34,550 --> 02:05:33,040
uh because i have seen some of your gear

2934
02:05:36,470 --> 02:05:34,560
i can only imagine what the house is

2935
02:05:39,750 --> 02:05:36,480
like investment have you guys made

2936
02:05:41,910 --> 02:05:39,760
uh over the last 10 years oh i love the

2937
02:05:43,990 --> 02:05:41,920
face that was the face i was waiting for

2938
02:05:47,830 --> 02:05:44,000
from cherie

2939
02:05:50,550 --> 02:05:47,840
i don't even know um it's not cheap

2940
02:05:52,709 --> 02:05:50,560
the equipment's not cheap and it adds up

2941
02:05:53,830 --> 02:05:52,719
quickly and the batteries alone because

2942
02:05:56,950 --> 02:05:53,840
let's face it

2943
02:05:57,830 --> 02:05:56,960
99 of our stuff is portable has to be

2944
02:06:00,870 --> 02:05:57,840
portable

2945
02:06:01,669 --> 02:06:00,880
we go through batteries like there's no

2946
02:06:04,229 --> 02:06:01,679
tomorrow

2947
02:06:05,189 --> 02:06:04,239
and even those aren't cheap when you

2948
02:06:08,390 --> 02:06:05,199
when you're talking

2949
02:06:10,470 --> 02:06:08,400
running you know hundreds of them um

2950
02:06:13,669 --> 02:06:10,480
so i don't know i would say we're

2951
02:06:15,750 --> 02:06:13,679
probably somewhere in the range of

2952
02:06:17,030 --> 02:06:15,760
i don't i have no idea you're turning

2953
02:06:20,790 --> 02:06:17,040
you're turning red

2954
02:06:23,830 --> 02:06:20,800
because i've

2955
02:06:26,229 --> 02:06:23,840
i've seen it i i know what uh uh

2956
02:06:27,510 --> 02:06:26,239
the amount of time and and things for

2957
02:06:30,069 --> 02:06:27,520
you to put

2958
02:06:31,189 --> 02:06:30,079
together that amount of gear to know how

2959
02:06:33,270 --> 02:06:31,199
to run it

2960
02:06:34,709 --> 02:06:33,280
right that's the other thing you can you

2961
02:06:36,709 --> 02:06:34,719
can purchase something but if you don't

2962
02:06:38,870 --> 02:06:36,719
know how to use it effectively

2963
02:06:40,550 --> 02:06:38,880
uh it's just something that's going to

2964
02:06:43,350 --> 02:06:40,560
sit there and collect dust

2965
02:06:43,990 --> 02:06:43,360
and then you need to share that advice

2966
02:06:46,550 --> 02:06:44,000
with other

2967
02:06:47,350 --> 02:06:46,560
paranormal teams that are out there do

2968
02:06:49,910 --> 02:06:47,360
you guys

2969
02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:49,920
cooperate is the paranormal world

2970
02:06:53,189 --> 02:06:50,560
different

2971
02:06:53,990 --> 02:06:53,199
from you know other communities where

2972
02:06:57,270 --> 02:06:54,000
you guys share

2973
02:06:58,709 --> 02:06:57,280
information and you guys are open to

2974
02:07:00,870 --> 02:06:58,719
to the efforts of trying to get this

2975
02:07:04,229 --> 02:07:00,880
done

2976
02:07:06,390 --> 02:07:04,239
we definitely are and always have been

2977
02:07:09,189 --> 02:07:06,400
there's been a lot of changes within the

2978
02:07:13,589 --> 02:07:09,199
paranormal community in the last

2979
02:07:15,669 --> 02:07:13,599
10 years there's a lot of secretism that

2980
02:07:16,790 --> 02:07:15,679
goes on there's a lot of not sharing

2981
02:07:18,629 --> 02:07:16,800
locations

2982
02:07:20,629 --> 02:07:18,639
not sharing information and that's a

2983
02:07:24,830 --> 02:07:20,639
shame because we are all

2984
02:07:27,510 --> 02:07:24,840
in this for one goal and that's to find

2985
02:07:30,709 --> 02:07:27,520
answers the way that's going to happen

2986
02:07:31,669 --> 02:07:30,719
is to share the information share your

2987
02:07:34,470 --> 02:07:31,679
characters

2988
02:07:36,390 --> 02:07:34,480
explain how you got them otherwise

2989
02:07:37,430 --> 02:07:36,400
everybody working independently or

2990
02:07:39,830 --> 02:07:37,440
secretively

2991
02:07:40,470 --> 02:07:39,840
isn't going to solve anything this is a

2992
02:07:43,109 --> 02:07:40,480
huge

2993
02:07:44,790 --> 02:07:43,119
question for and for every answer we get

2994
02:07:46,069 --> 02:07:44,800
there's a hundred more questions

2995
02:07:48,229 --> 02:07:46,079
it's not something you're going to

2996
02:07:49,750 --> 02:07:48,239
accomplish on your own let's get back to

2997
02:07:53,030 --> 02:07:49,760
some of these evps

2998
02:07:56,470 --> 02:07:53,040
okay and and the next one um

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02:07:59,830 --> 02:07:56,480
is called uh mama

3000
02:08:01,510 --> 02:07:59,840
uh okay share this with us uh what's the

3001
02:08:04,950 --> 02:08:01,520
story

3002
02:08:08,149 --> 02:08:04,960
okay i think this is um la pasada

3003
02:08:11,990 --> 02:08:08,159
in underground tunnels in la pasada

3004
02:08:15,189 --> 02:08:12,000
and um so we were in the

3005
02:08:17,830 --> 02:08:15,199
um basement actually a small

3006
02:08:18,709 --> 02:08:17,840
tan tunnel and i was trying to

3007
02:08:21,589 --> 02:08:18,719
investigate

3008
02:08:22,550 --> 02:08:21,599
i told tony can i crawl in that small

3009
02:08:25,750 --> 02:08:22,560
tunnel

3010
02:08:29,830 --> 02:08:25,760
and then so i was doing um

3011
02:08:32,950 --> 02:08:29,840
uh i i had the recorder and just

3012
02:08:33,510 --> 02:08:32,960
this voice says mama and my kids called

3013
02:08:38,229 --> 02:08:33,520
me

3014
02:08:39,990 --> 02:08:38,239
this

3015
02:08:41,990 --> 02:08:40,000
well they actually said come here mommy

3016
02:08:45,669 --> 02:08:42,000
yeah yeah come here mama

3017
02:08:47,030 --> 02:08:45,679
now uh were you uh were you asking

3018
02:08:49,990 --> 02:08:47,040
questions were you

3019
02:08:51,510 --> 02:08:50,000
trying to communicate when this happened

3020
02:08:53,990 --> 02:08:51,520
yeah i think i did it

3021
02:08:55,589 --> 02:08:54,000
you asked i can't remember yeah you you

3022
02:08:58,550 --> 02:08:55,599
asked one question you asked if

3023
02:08:59,030 --> 02:08:58,560
if there were any spirits in the hall

3024
02:09:01,830 --> 02:08:59,040
and

3025
02:09:02,550 --> 02:09:01,840
uh that's what came back right okay i

3026
02:09:07,750 --> 02:09:02,560
can't remember

3027
02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:23,189
oh my bad hold on everybody

3028
02:09:23,199 --> 02:10:07,750
no no no no no no no

3029
02:10:12,870 --> 02:10:11,109
new man you know i i get scared also

3030
02:10:14,390 --> 02:10:12,880
well and it's not i'm gonna play it back

3031
02:10:17,990 --> 02:10:14,400
again it's not hey

3032
02:10:21,270 --> 02:10:18,000
you know come here mama that is like

3033
02:10:34,790 --> 02:10:21,280
that is right and that that's a male

3034
02:10:40,709 --> 02:10:37,910
twice yup right that's

3035
02:10:41,750 --> 02:10:40,719
very very uh scary this was wicked too

3036
02:10:43,189 --> 02:10:41,760
because

3037
02:10:45,350 --> 02:10:43,199
there were so many things going on

3038
02:10:48,629 --> 02:10:45,360
that's where we almost quit

3039
02:10:51,510 --> 02:10:48,639
that is when tony i

3040
02:10:52,069 --> 02:10:51,520
i'm not so sure what happened i do you

3041
02:10:55,109 --> 02:10:52,079
told them

3042
02:10:58,629 --> 02:10:55,119
to use my energy yes but

3043
02:11:02,069 --> 02:10:58,639
it's it's scary and this

3044
02:11:04,950 --> 02:11:02,079
time that i said let's stop this um

3045
02:11:06,550 --> 02:11:04,960
paranormal investigation i don't want

3046
02:11:09,189 --> 02:11:06,560
this anymore because

3047
02:11:09,990 --> 02:11:09,199
something bad happened to tony that yeah

3048
02:11:12,470 --> 02:11:10,000
and that

3049
02:11:13,109 --> 02:11:12,480
is my fault we are trying to do okay

3050
02:11:16,390 --> 02:11:13,119
prayers

3051
02:11:18,870 --> 02:11:16,400
okay what happened well

3052
02:11:20,229 --> 02:11:18,880
something got a hold of me and wouldn't

3053
02:11:21,669 --> 02:11:20,239
let go

3054
02:11:24,550 --> 02:11:21,679
and normally when we're done

3055
02:11:27,350 --> 02:11:24,560
investigating we both recite

3056
02:11:28,870 --> 02:11:27,360
closing prayers protection prayers i

3057
02:11:31,430 --> 02:11:28,880
couldn't even get the words to come out

3058
02:11:33,990 --> 02:11:31,440
of my mouth cherie would say just repeat

3059
02:11:35,990 --> 02:11:34,000
and if she'd only say one or two words i

3060
02:11:38,390 --> 02:11:36,000
couldn't even repeat him it was

3061
02:11:39,030 --> 02:11:38,400
one of the freakiest things i've ever

3062
02:11:42,069 --> 02:11:39,040
experienced

3063
02:11:45,189 --> 02:11:42,079
okay because when i when i asked i said

3064
02:11:48,709 --> 02:11:45,199
when we're doing investigation was

3065
02:11:52,950 --> 02:11:48,719
i said use tony's energy yeah and

3066
02:11:56,069 --> 02:11:52,960
that sure enough that happens

3067
02:11:57,589 --> 02:11:56,079
it's uh this this is this is this is

3068
02:11:59,669 --> 02:11:57,599
pretty scary

3069
02:12:01,189 --> 02:11:59,679
i mean there there's a there's an

3070
02:12:04,229 --> 02:12:01,199
inflection to this

3071
02:12:07,430 --> 02:12:04,239
where that that's not uh you know uh

3072
02:12:09,750 --> 02:12:07,440
let's let's have fun ha ha right that's

3073
02:12:18,830 --> 02:12:09,760
right that's not what's going on here

3074
02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:26,149
time

3075
02:12:32,830 --> 02:12:29,270
yeah that's that's scary that's scary

3076
02:13:02,550 --> 02:12:32,840
uh that doesn't make me feel comf

3077
02:13:19,830 --> 02:13:06,310
i love the comments uh what everybody is

3078
02:13:23,350 --> 02:13:21,510
yeah there's something at the end there

3079
02:13:25,589 --> 02:13:23,360
it sounds like kamir mama

3080
02:13:27,270 --> 02:13:25,599
but i can't make out the last word or

3081
02:13:30,550 --> 02:13:27,280
two

3082
02:13:32,870 --> 02:13:30,560
think is cherie

3083
02:13:34,550 --> 02:13:32,880
because judging by what i just listened

3084
02:13:37,350 --> 02:13:34,560
to it sounds like her voice

3085
02:13:39,510 --> 02:13:37,360
i might have left that in there okay ah

3086
02:13:40,870 --> 02:13:39,520
man that is i i gotta hear this one more

3087
02:13:54,310 --> 02:13:40,880
time it's too creepy

3088
02:13:58,629 --> 02:13:56,470
oh no no no cherie does say something

3089
02:14:10,830 --> 02:13:58,639
that's not what i'm talking about

3090
02:14:15,589 --> 02:14:12,069
again

3091
02:14:17,589 --> 02:14:15,599
yeah yeah yeah yeah i hear it

3092
02:14:19,910 --> 02:14:17,599
yeah yeah i hear it it's kind of sounded

3093
02:14:23,270 --> 02:14:19,920
like get out

3094
02:14:25,350 --> 02:14:23,280
i'm now officially an investigator

3095
02:14:28,470 --> 02:14:25,360
good ear though jimmy i'm officially

3096
02:14:31,589 --> 02:14:28,480
that is crazy creepy

3097
02:14:34,950 --> 02:14:31,599
all right now uh the next one is

3098
02:14:38,629 --> 02:14:34,960
your right oh okay

3099
02:14:40,550 --> 02:14:38,639
this was the phelps dodge hospital um

3100
02:14:42,629 --> 02:14:40,560
i was we were with two of our team

3101
02:14:45,669 --> 02:14:42,639
members of of entity voices

3102
02:14:49,270 --> 02:14:45,679
um chris all good audrey keeler chris

3103
02:14:52,149 --> 02:14:49,280
has got some uh sensitive abilities

3104
02:14:53,510 --> 02:14:52,159
and we were in one of the minor surgery

3105
02:14:55,750 --> 02:14:53,520
rooms or

3106
02:14:57,109 --> 02:14:55,760
the surgery room i don't remember which

3107
02:15:00,470 --> 02:14:57,119
but we're standing there

3108
02:15:03,189 --> 02:15:00,480
and we're recording both video and

3109
02:15:05,910 --> 02:15:03,199
audio recorders and he looks at me and

3110
02:15:09,030 --> 02:15:05,920
he says there's a woman in here

3111
02:15:10,950 --> 02:15:09,040
and before i could even answer

3112
02:15:14,790 --> 02:15:10,960
this is what was picked up on the

3113
02:15:20,830 --> 02:15:14,800
recorders okay here we go

3114
02:15:20,840 --> 02:15:28,069
really

3115
02:15:28,079 --> 02:15:32,210
there's a woman in here

3116
02:15:38,709 --> 02:15:35,430
[Laughter]

3117
02:15:39,270 --> 02:15:38,719
and that is loud as can be and he knew

3118
02:15:41,510 --> 02:15:39,280
it

3119
02:15:42,470 --> 02:15:41,520
i i had no idea i mean i'm not i've

3120
02:15:44,950 --> 02:15:42,480
never claimed to be

3121
02:15:46,550 --> 02:15:44,960
psychic or anything in between but he

3122
02:15:46,950 --> 02:15:46,560
flat out there's a woman in here and

3123
02:15:50,229 --> 02:15:46,960
then

3124
02:15:58,650 --> 02:15:50,239
this loud as can be you're right

3125
02:15:58,660 --> 02:16:02,830
[Music]

3126
02:16:09,109 --> 02:16:04,870
really

3127
02:16:12,229 --> 02:16:09,119
there's a woman in here man

3128
02:16:14,790 --> 02:16:12,239
man man that's a ghost yep

3129
02:16:15,350 --> 02:16:14,800
what is she saying she's saying you're

3130
02:16:16,870 --> 02:16:15,360
right

3131
02:16:18,950 --> 02:16:16,880
meeting because he just said there's a

3132
02:16:21,990 --> 02:16:18,960
woman in here no i the

3133
02:16:24,790 --> 02:16:22,000
there is there a third word

3134
02:16:25,990 --> 02:16:24,800
okay let's say okay hold on a minute man

3135
02:16:29,189 --> 02:16:26,000
i got these

3136
02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:29,199
go

3137
02:16:36,250 --> 02:16:42,469
[Music]

3138
02:16:50,070 --> 02:16:46,790
there's a woman in here ah it's the echo

3139
02:16:53,509 --> 02:16:50,080
it's the echo okay wow so

3140
02:16:56,549 --> 02:16:53,519
that voice echoed

3141
02:16:59,429 --> 02:16:56,559
right it bounced off the walls

3142
02:17:01,030 --> 02:16:59,439
yep yep but the funny part was we didn't

3143
02:17:01,669 --> 02:17:01,040
hear it with our own ears we didn't

3144
02:17:04,709 --> 02:17:01,679
catch it

3145
02:17:05,509 --> 02:17:04,719
until we heard the recording so the

3146
02:17:08,549 --> 02:17:05,519
question then

3147
02:17:10,389 --> 02:17:08,559
is that can only happen with sound waves

3148
02:17:13,509 --> 02:17:10,399
sound waves have to be

3149
02:17:15,030 --> 02:17:13,519
produced to bounce whereas if if a

3150
02:17:17,190 --> 02:17:15,040
spirit just leaves a message on the

3151
02:17:18,389 --> 02:17:17,200
recorder directly to the recorder

3152
02:17:20,709 --> 02:17:18,399
because there is no

3153
02:17:23,030 --> 02:17:20,719
throat there's no larnix there's no

3154
02:17:25,669 --> 02:17:23,040
nothing to produce those vibrations

3155
02:17:26,389 --> 02:17:25,679
so yeah the big question there is how is

3156
02:17:30,230 --> 02:17:26,399
that echo

3157
02:17:34,309 --> 02:17:30,240
occurring yeah and there okay now um

3158
02:17:38,070 --> 02:17:34,319
from my ears um i almost want

3159
02:17:40,830 --> 02:17:38,080
to point okay i'm gonna ask twitter

3160
02:17:46,469 --> 02:17:44,070
what what accent

3161
02:17:47,509 --> 02:17:46,479
are you hearing i'm going to play it one

3162
02:17:50,709 --> 02:17:47,519
more time

3163
02:17:52,629 --> 02:17:50,719
and i want to get some opinions in here

3164
02:17:59,650 --> 02:17:52,639
on twitter here we go

3165
02:17:59,660 --> 02:18:05,830
[Music]

3166
02:18:05,840 --> 02:18:12,230
there's a woman in here

3167
02:18:16,549 --> 02:18:15,190
what are you hearing what are you

3168
02:18:18,950 --> 02:18:16,559
hearing i want twitter

3169
02:18:20,070 --> 02:18:18,960
to respond to that there's an accent

3170
02:18:27,140 --> 02:18:20,080
there that i hear

3171
02:18:27,150 --> 02:18:33,349
[Music]

3172
02:18:39,589 --> 02:18:38,629
there's a woman in here i hear something

3173
02:18:44,709 --> 02:18:39,599
going on

3174
02:18:48,150 --> 02:18:46,389
right i think that's a i think that's a

3175
02:18:51,589 --> 02:18:48,160
very good guess that's

3176
02:18:54,790 --> 02:18:51,599
it it sounds period

3177
02:18:57,110 --> 02:18:54,800
yup it sounds old right well and that's

3178
02:18:59,030 --> 02:18:57,120
what we love about evps outside of what

3179
02:19:02,070 --> 02:18:59,040
they actually tell you

3180
02:19:03,830 --> 02:19:02,080
you can get an approximation of age you

3181
02:19:06,070 --> 02:19:03,840
know whether it's male or female you

3182
02:19:08,950 --> 02:19:06,080
know whether it's an adult or a child

3183
02:19:09,509 --> 02:19:08,960
you can tell whether there's an accent

3184
02:19:13,030 --> 02:19:09,519
all

3185
02:19:15,349 --> 02:19:13,040
leave

3186
02:19:16,309 --> 02:19:15,359
so great catch on catching that accent

3187
02:19:18,950 --> 02:19:16,319
jimmy that was awesome

3188
02:19:21,110 --> 02:19:18,960
it sounds southern it sounds period it

3189
02:19:23,110 --> 02:19:21,120
sounds

3190
02:19:24,400 --> 02:19:23,120
well i wasn't alive in the 1800s but

3191
02:19:26,230 --> 02:19:24,410
i've seen a couple of movies

3192
02:19:27,270 --> 02:19:26,240
[Laughter]

3193
02:19:29,509 --> 02:19:27,280
you know what i mean it sounds like

3194
02:19:31,669 --> 02:19:29,519
you're right i mean it's

3195
02:19:34,230 --> 02:19:31,679
it's it's got a thing and it doesn't

3196
02:19:37,429 --> 02:19:34,240
sound like a modern southern accent it

3197
02:19:40,549 --> 02:19:37,439
sounds period it sounds older

3198
02:19:43,910 --> 02:19:40,559
right i almost see the parasol you know

3199
02:19:46,950 --> 02:19:43,920
and and and and some kind of dress

3200
02:19:48,870 --> 02:19:46,960
right um exactly wow wow okay one more

3201
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:48,880
time two minutes

3202
02:20:00,950 --> 02:19:49,930
i gotta giggle

3203
02:20:00,960 --> 02:20:05,590
there's a woman in here

3204
02:20:09,270 --> 02:20:07,990
that's class a right there that's glass

3205
02:20:12,469 --> 02:20:09,280
it's definitely class a

3206
02:20:13,830 --> 02:20:12,479
yes wow wow when you uh

3207
02:20:15,510 --> 02:20:13,840
can i get you guys to hang on for

3208
02:20:18,150 --> 02:20:15,520
overtime

3209
02:20:19,830 --> 02:20:18,160
sure okay because we've got these three

3210
02:20:22,469 --> 02:20:19,840
images we've got to discuss

3211
02:20:23,670 --> 02:20:22,479
and we're almost at the break and

3212
02:20:26,870 --> 02:20:23,680
there's no way

3213
02:20:28,870 --> 02:20:26,880
i am going to uh speed that up because

3214
02:20:31,990 --> 02:20:28,880
the images are too great

3215
02:20:35,110 --> 02:20:32,000
um i want to ask you this though

3216
02:20:35,830 --> 02:20:35,120
when you start um i've done this with

3217
02:20:39,110 --> 02:20:35,840
you and i

3218
02:20:41,750 --> 02:20:39,120
and i've seen the process but

3219
02:20:43,349 --> 02:20:41,760
a lot of this doesn't come out on on

3220
02:20:46,070 --> 02:20:43,359
television

3221
02:20:49,910 --> 02:20:46,080
is there a process that you do as you

3222
02:20:54,230 --> 02:20:52,389
yeah i mean the first thing we do if

3223
02:20:56,469 --> 02:20:54,240
we've never been to the location before

3224
02:20:58,550 --> 02:20:56,479
we introduce ourselves we tell them

3225
02:21:00,070 --> 02:20:58,560
we're not here to harm them we tell them

3226
02:21:03,910 --> 02:21:00,080
we're not here to

3227
02:21:05,429 --> 02:21:03,920
disturb them we just want to communicate

3228
02:21:08,710 --> 02:21:05,439
so we start with that

3229
02:21:12,630 --> 02:21:08,720
then of course i guess prior to that

3230
02:21:14,389 --> 02:21:12,640
we've done protection uh

3231
02:21:16,469 --> 02:21:14,399
to make sure that we're not hurt we're

3232
02:21:20,309 --> 02:21:16,479
not harmed we're not injured

3233
02:21:23,590 --> 02:21:20,319
um and then we start the investigation

3234
02:21:25,910 --> 02:21:23,600
we start um by going through

3235
02:21:27,990 --> 02:21:25,920
various scenarios to identify where we

3236
02:21:30,950 --> 02:21:28,000
believe hot spots are

3237
02:21:32,070 --> 02:21:30,960
then we'll test for evps if we get evps

3238
02:21:34,150 --> 02:21:32,080
we'll go to

3239
02:21:35,670 --> 02:21:34,160
parabolic mics and all sorts of other

3240
02:21:37,429 --> 02:21:35,680
equipment um

3241
02:21:39,349 --> 02:21:37,439
but that's kind of the process we

3242
02:21:41,910 --> 02:21:39,359
followed and we make sure

3243
02:21:44,150 --> 02:21:41,920
to let this spirit know that that

3244
02:21:46,070 --> 02:21:44,160
they're not allowed to follow us

3245
02:21:47,510 --> 02:21:46,080
yeah what about keep that what about

3246
02:21:48,950 --> 02:21:47,520
crystals do you have stuff in your

3247
02:21:51,750 --> 02:21:48,960
pocket

3248
02:21:52,150 --> 02:21:51,760
we have all sorts of things from jewelry

3249
02:21:59,349 --> 02:21:52,160
to

3250
02:22:02,870 --> 02:21:59,359
of holy water salts um

3251
02:22:05,349 --> 02:22:02,880
sage um prayers

3252
02:22:06,070 --> 02:22:05,359
uh i have my crystals too yeah you know

3253
02:22:08,309 --> 02:22:06,080
it's literally

3254
02:22:09,429 --> 02:22:08,319
the kit we use if we know we're going to

3255
02:22:12,710 --> 02:22:09,439
remove

3256
02:22:14,950 --> 02:22:12,720
um spirits but we carry that with us uh

3257
02:22:16,630 --> 02:22:14,960
just in case something goes really

3258
02:22:18,550 --> 02:22:16,640
really wrong we usually leave it in the

3259
02:22:20,469 --> 02:22:18,560
card so we know we need it

3260
02:22:22,230 --> 02:22:20,479
because it it can cause trouble if there

3261
02:22:24,230 --> 02:22:22,240
is something right

3262
02:22:25,429 --> 02:22:24,240
cherie what kind of crystals do you

3263
02:22:27,590 --> 02:22:25,439
recommend what do you

3264
02:22:28,950 --> 02:22:27,600
what do you make sure that you have well

3265
02:22:32,389 --> 02:22:28,960
i have the crystal

3266
02:22:38,230 --> 02:22:32,399
quartz the quartz with me and i have my

3267
02:22:38,240 --> 02:22:41,670
yeah and my

3268
02:22:48,550 --> 02:22:45,349
what's in your pendant oh my rose quartz

3269
02:22:50,950 --> 02:22:48,560
yeah that's a rose quartz yes and

3270
02:22:51,990 --> 02:22:50,960
you don't leave home without it no i

3271
02:22:54,309 --> 02:22:52,000
don't

3272
02:22:55,270 --> 02:22:54,319
i always carry it with me just like my

3273
02:22:59,830 --> 02:22:55,280
vicks

3274
02:23:03,190 --> 02:23:01,910
we'll get to the images after the break

3275
02:23:06,870 --> 02:23:03,200
everybody but

3276
02:23:09,830 --> 02:23:06,880
i wanted to ask you about bigfoot

3277
02:23:12,150 --> 02:23:09,840
do you guys ever uh go out and and see

3278
02:23:15,910 --> 02:23:12,160
what you can find there

3279
02:23:16,309 --> 02:23:15,920
we we have not personally investigated

3280
02:23:18,389 --> 02:23:16,319
it

3281
02:23:19,590 --> 02:23:18,399
but you had experience but yeah i've had

3282
02:23:21,429 --> 02:23:19,600
experiences

3283
02:23:23,190 --> 02:23:21,439
not so much on the go side but on the

3284
02:23:24,950 --> 02:23:23,200
bigfoot side i have

3285
02:23:26,790 --> 02:23:24,960
but you know what there's also huge

3286
02:23:30,469 --> 02:23:26,800
crossover between

3287
02:23:33,830 --> 02:23:30,479
those three things paranormal activity

3288
02:23:36,150 --> 02:23:33,840
ufo activity and bigfoot activity

3289
02:23:38,070 --> 02:23:36,160
and if you draw the line of connections

3290
02:23:40,710 --> 02:23:38,080
between the three

3291
02:23:41,429 --> 02:23:40,720
something is interconnecting all three

3292
02:23:44,469 --> 02:23:41,439
of them yeah

3293
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:44,479
they happen at the same time right and

3294
02:23:48,870 --> 02:23:46,000
that's not coincidence

3295
02:23:49,670 --> 02:23:48,880
no not at all do you feel that the

3296
02:23:52,710 --> 02:23:49,680
elements

3297
02:23:56,550 --> 02:23:52,720
of bigfoot and sasquatch that

3298
02:23:59,190 --> 02:23:56,560
it these inter-dimensional questions

3299
02:24:00,309 --> 02:23:59,200
the paranormal questions the entity

3300
02:24:02,630 --> 02:24:00,319
questions

3301
02:24:04,710 --> 02:24:02,640
they all apply to bigfoot don't they

3302
02:24:06,389 --> 02:24:04,720
well they they easily can i mean it

3303
02:24:08,790 --> 02:24:06,399
depends on how you look at it

3304
02:24:09,910 --> 02:24:08,800
but if you start looking at the

3305
02:24:12,630 --> 02:24:09,920
interdimensional

3306
02:24:15,190 --> 02:24:12,640
aspects and that bigfoot could be an

3307
02:24:17,910 --> 02:24:15,200
internet or an interdimensional

3308
02:24:18,710 --> 02:24:17,920
being that's either protecting something

3309
02:24:22,630 --> 02:24:18,720
or

3310
02:24:25,349 --> 02:24:22,640
is here

3311
02:24:28,429 --> 02:24:25,359
and then you take the fact that it might

3312
02:24:30,790 --> 02:24:28,439
be extraterrestrial on top of a

3313
02:24:33,190 --> 02:24:30,800
multi-dimensional being and then you

3314
02:24:35,990 --> 02:24:33,200
look at what extraterrestrials can

3315
02:24:37,349 --> 02:24:36,000
supposedly do walk through walls make

3316
02:24:40,230 --> 02:24:37,359
themselves vanish

3317
02:24:41,750 --> 02:24:40,240
that's paranormal activity so you can

3318
02:24:42,710 --> 02:24:41,760
literally line everything up and say

3319
02:24:46,309 --> 02:24:42,720
okay this

3320
02:24:48,870 --> 02:24:46,319
this could answer all of it now uh i'm

3321
02:24:50,309 --> 02:24:48,880
i'm not even going to look at uh twitter

3322
02:24:52,150 --> 02:24:50,319
but once

3323
02:24:54,230 --> 02:24:52,160
you mention that you've had a bigfoot

3324
02:24:57,510 --> 02:24:54,240
experience they're not going to let me

3325
02:25:00,870 --> 02:24:57,520
continue without asking what happened

3326
02:25:04,150 --> 02:25:00,880
i was camping um with

3327
02:25:07,270 --> 02:25:04,160
my oldest son but he was only about

3328
02:25:09,190 --> 02:25:07,280
six or seven at the time and

3329
02:25:11,190 --> 02:25:09,200
it was his first time camping with me

3330
02:25:11,510 --> 02:25:11,200
and he every couple minutes daddy what's

3331
02:25:14,950 --> 02:25:11,520
that

3332
02:25:17,190 --> 02:25:14,960
okay

3333
02:25:18,309 --> 02:25:17,200
it's it's a coyote daddy what's that

3334
02:25:21,510 --> 02:25:18,319
it's just a bird

3335
02:25:24,550 --> 02:25:21,520
everything's fine well about 2

3336
02:25:25,750 --> 02:25:24,560
30 3 o'clock in the morning there was

3337
02:25:28,469 --> 02:25:25,760
this grow

3338
02:25:30,389 --> 02:25:28,479
outside of the tent that was absolutely

3339
02:25:34,150 --> 02:25:30,399
ear piercing to the point where

3340
02:25:35,990 --> 02:25:34,160
it shook the ground and he's like daddy

3341
02:25:39,590 --> 02:25:36,000
what's that i didn't know what to say

3342
02:25:43,270 --> 02:25:39,600
i was literally terrified at the

3343
02:25:44,309 --> 02:25:43,280
deepness the the vibration that came

3344
02:25:47,349 --> 02:25:44,319
from it

3345
02:25:47,990 --> 02:25:47,359
so of course i grabbed the gun opened up

3346
02:25:50,150 --> 02:25:48,000
the tent

3347
02:25:52,630 --> 02:25:50,160
expecting to see something standing

3348
02:25:53,270 --> 02:25:52,640
right outside the door there was nothing

3349
02:25:55,910 --> 02:25:53,280
there

3350
02:25:56,389 --> 02:25:55,920
what made the sound i have no idea but

3351
02:25:59,830 --> 02:25:56,399
it

3352
02:26:00,630 --> 02:25:59,840
was a sound very similar to what the

3353
02:26:03,990 --> 02:26:00,640
shows

3354
02:26:07,349 --> 02:26:04,000
portray as what a bigfoot roar

3355
02:26:07,990 --> 02:26:07,359
howl sounds like and it was absolutely

3356
02:26:11,670 --> 02:26:08,000
terrifying

3357
02:26:15,190 --> 02:26:11,680
where was this this was up in

3358
02:26:18,230 --> 02:26:15,200
um the rim

3359
02:26:21,510 --> 02:26:18,240
area of arizona which is just probably

3360
02:26:23,349 --> 02:26:21,520
45 minutes outside of payson um it's a

3361
02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:23,359
higher elevation it's all pine tree

3362
02:26:27,190 --> 02:26:24,160
forest

3363
02:26:28,070 --> 02:26:27,200
absolutely beautiful area we were way in

3364
02:26:31,590 --> 02:26:28,080
the back

3365
02:26:33,670 --> 02:26:31,600
of the forest area camping in the middle

3366
02:26:35,990 --> 02:26:33,680
of absolutely nowhere and it was

3367
02:26:38,230 --> 02:26:36,000
it was terrifying and any footprints did

3368
02:26:41,190 --> 02:26:38,240
you did you find anything

3369
02:26:41,510 --> 02:26:41,200
never went to look once the sun came up

3370
02:26:44,630 --> 02:26:41,520
we

3371
02:26:45,590 --> 02:26:44,640
packed up and uh headed home you know

3372
02:26:49,110 --> 02:26:45,600
that's uh

3373
02:26:52,550 --> 02:26:49,120
that's pretty solid right and and

3374
02:26:53,590 --> 02:26:52,560
we've uh we've all heard these types of

3375
02:26:56,389 --> 02:26:53,600
experiences

3376
02:26:56,870 --> 02:26:56,399
and events in the past do you think that

3377
02:27:02,070 --> 02:26:56,880
you

3378
02:27:04,070 --> 02:27:02,080
i've hunted for years i know what the

3379
02:27:05,670 --> 02:27:04,080
animals in arizona sound like i know

3380
02:27:07,750 --> 02:27:05,680
what the calls sound like

3381
02:27:09,830 --> 02:27:07,760
i mean i know what a cougar killing an

3382
02:27:12,070 --> 02:27:09,840
animal sounds like

3383
02:27:14,230 --> 02:27:12,080
i know the screams they make i know

3384
02:27:16,389 --> 02:27:14,240
coyotes i know wolves

3385
02:27:17,990 --> 02:27:16,399
this was none of them so whatever i

3386
02:27:20,469 --> 02:27:18,000
heard was something i had

3387
02:27:22,389 --> 02:27:20,479
never heard in the the force and the

3388
02:27:24,070 --> 02:27:22,399
power of this scream i mean literally i

3389
02:27:26,309 --> 02:27:24,080
could feel the vibrations

3390
02:27:28,790 --> 02:27:26,319
sleeping on the ground it was that

3391
02:27:29,190 --> 02:27:28,800
strong do you feel that you should go

3392
02:27:32,469 --> 02:27:29,200
out

3393
02:27:33,510 --> 02:27:32,479
one day and and with your microphones

3394
02:27:36,230 --> 02:27:33,520
and the parabolic

3395
02:27:36,950 --> 02:27:36,240
and go out with your with your meters

3396
02:27:40,790 --> 02:27:36,960
and

3397
02:27:41,270 --> 02:27:40,800
there's absolutely no reason why we

3398
02:27:43,270 --> 02:27:41,280
couldn't

3399
02:27:44,950 --> 02:27:43,280
same with extraterrestrials the same

3400
02:27:48,630 --> 02:27:44,960
equipment can be used

3401
02:27:51,349 --> 02:27:48,640
and capture and let's face it our

3402
02:27:52,550 --> 02:27:51,359
boxes i don't know about bigfoot but

3403
02:27:54,230 --> 02:27:52,560
extraterrestrials

3404
02:27:56,150 --> 02:27:54,240
there would be no reason why we couldn't

3405
02:27:57,830 --> 02:27:56,160
be communicating with them in fact we

3406
02:27:59,510 --> 02:27:57,840
asked that question just the other night

3407
02:28:02,550 --> 02:27:59,520
oh yeah we tried it

3408
02:28:03,990 --> 02:28:02,560
i uh the the last question i have before

3409
02:28:07,190 --> 02:28:04,000
uh we head to the break

3410
02:28:09,590 --> 02:28:07,200
is there is so much about

3411
02:28:11,429 --> 02:28:09,600
batteries draining and batteries

3412
02:28:14,630 --> 02:28:11,439
draining on bigfoot

3413
02:28:18,790 --> 02:28:14,640
hunts too as well how how common

3414
02:28:20,469 --> 02:28:18,800
is this very in fact

3415
02:28:23,030 --> 02:28:20,479
i i can't tell you how many times we've

3416
02:28:25,110 --> 02:28:23,040
run across it it happens to

3417
02:28:26,710 --> 02:28:25,120
anyone who's out investigate want to

3418
02:28:28,550 --> 02:28:26,720
take the energy the battery is the

3419
02:28:31,670 --> 02:28:28,560
perfect source for them to take

3420
02:28:33,190 --> 02:28:31,680
whether they want to cause some um

3421
02:28:34,710 --> 02:28:33,200
something to happen whether they want to

3422
02:28:36,230 --> 02:28:34,720
speak whether they want to scare it

3423
02:28:38,790 --> 02:28:36,240
whatever the case is

3424
02:28:40,790 --> 02:28:38,800
battery drain is common we've had it so

3425
02:28:43,670 --> 02:28:40,800
bad that we were filming

3426
02:28:45,270 --> 02:28:43,680
all the cameras from the cameramen died

3427
02:28:47,190 --> 02:28:45,280
our equipment died

3428
02:28:48,469 --> 02:28:47,200
our car battery hold on i'm getting

3429
02:28:51,110 --> 02:28:48,479
there they

3430
02:28:53,510 --> 02:28:51,120
they actually drained the security

3431
02:28:54,469 --> 02:28:53,520
system battery for the building we were

3432
02:28:56,870 --> 02:28:54,479
in

3433
02:28:57,830 --> 02:28:56,880
and we couldn't leave that night because

3434
02:29:01,830 --> 02:28:57,840
they drained our

3435
02:29:02,309 --> 02:29:01,840
car battery i just had uh i've got 15

3436
02:29:05,590 --> 02:29:02,319
seconds

3437
02:29:09,270 --> 02:29:05,600
i i just had a guest on the show

3438
02:29:12,469 --> 02:29:09,280
about a bigfoot uh investigation

3439
02:29:16,230 --> 02:29:12,479
up in oregon across the border

3440
02:29:17,270 --> 02:29:16,240
and they had uh multiple marine

3441
02:29:20,950 --> 02:29:17,280
batteries

3442
02:29:24,550 --> 02:29:20,960
running this em generator okay

3443
02:29:25,110 --> 02:29:24,560
went dead went dead marine batteries car

3444
02:29:26,950 --> 02:29:25,120
battery

3445
02:29:28,389 --> 02:29:26,960
right but the marine version of it which

3446
02:29:31,349 --> 02:29:28,399
is supposed to be what

3447
02:29:32,070 --> 02:29:31,359
more heavy duty more heavy duty and

3448
02:29:34,150 --> 02:29:32,080
everything else

3449
02:29:35,990 --> 02:29:34,160
drained them so the next day they went

3450
02:29:39,110 --> 02:29:36,000
out and bought new batteries plus

3451
02:29:41,510 --> 02:29:39,120
i think three or four backups um

3452
02:29:42,309 --> 02:29:41,520
but they the second night the batteries

3453
02:29:45,349 --> 02:29:42,319
didn't drain

3454
02:29:46,550 --> 02:29:45,359
the original batteries that drained the

3455
02:29:48,950 --> 02:29:46,560
night before

3456
02:29:50,070 --> 02:29:48,960
were charged and they were fine the

3457
02:29:52,469 --> 02:29:50,080
second night

3458
02:29:54,309 --> 02:29:52,479
go and explain that it doesn't it just

3459
02:29:54,710 --> 02:29:54,319
doesn't make any sense makes no sense at

3460
02:29:56,630 --> 02:29:54,720
all

3461
02:29:59,349 --> 02:29:56,640
but let's take our break right here tony

3462
02:30:01,830 --> 02:29:59,359
and sheree rathman evpi

3463
02:30:03,990 --> 02:30:01,840
out of phoenix when we come back i've

3464
02:30:05,910 --> 02:30:04,000
already posted up the three images that

3465
02:30:07,750 --> 02:30:05,920
we are going to discuss

3466
02:30:09,429 --> 02:30:07,760
all that and much more after this short

3467
02:30:19,250 --> 02:30:09,439
break stay with us it's overtime with

3468
02:30:38,790 --> 02:30:19,260
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3469
02:30:43,030 --> 02:30:41,110
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3546
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3547
02:34:18,710 --> 02:34:16,240
jimmy church great show tonight tony and

3548
02:34:23,389 --> 02:34:18,720
sheree rathman are here evp

3549
02:34:25,950 --> 02:34:23,399
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3550
02:34:27,590 --> 02:34:25,960
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click on that check everything out and

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02:34:31,510 --> 02:34:29,920
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3555
02:34:36,550 --> 02:34:33,680
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3556
02:34:37,270 --> 02:34:36,560
what night monday monday night and you

3557
02:34:40,150 --> 02:34:37,280
open for

3558
02:34:41,429 --> 02:34:40,160
fade to black on uh correct on monday

3559
02:34:43,910 --> 02:34:41,439
nights

3560
02:34:44,550 --> 02:34:43,920
that's uh pretty cool stuff now uh

3561
02:34:46,309 --> 02:34:44,560
really quick

3562
02:34:47,910 --> 02:34:46,319
yeah we're gonna get to these images

3563
02:34:51,429 --> 02:34:47,920
right now but

3564
02:34:53,830 --> 02:34:51,439
if somebody wants to get started in this

3565
02:34:55,990 --> 02:34:53,840
and and go out and and start to

3566
02:34:56,469 --> 02:34:56,000
investigate you know the local haunted

3567
02:34:57,830 --> 02:34:56,479
house

3568
02:35:00,630 --> 02:34:57,840
in their neighborhood that they should

3569
02:35:02,870 --> 02:35:00,640
never enter uh what are the two or three

3570
02:35:06,150 --> 02:35:02,880
pieces of essential gear that

3571
02:35:08,469 --> 02:35:06,160
that they need to start off with camera

3572
02:35:10,550 --> 02:35:08,479
whether that be even your cell phone

3573
02:35:13,190 --> 02:35:10,560
because your cell phone can take

3574
02:35:14,550 --> 02:35:13,200
great pictures today but i but a camera

3575
02:35:17,670 --> 02:35:14,560
in order to

3576
02:35:21,670 --> 02:35:17,680
uh take pictures and video record and

3577
02:35:25,110 --> 02:35:21,680
most of them do both today um

3578
02:35:28,070 --> 02:35:25,120
digital recorder and maybe an emf meter

3579
02:35:28,550 --> 02:35:28,080
those are probably what you'd start out

3580
02:35:32,790 --> 02:35:28,560
with

3581
02:35:35,830 --> 02:35:32,800
flashlight flashlight yes

3582
02:35:37,349 --> 02:35:35,840
oh and and you guys um you guys carry a

3583
02:35:39,429 --> 02:35:37,359
lot of gear with you do you have like a

3584
02:35:42,550 --> 02:35:39,439
tool belt and have stuff hanging off

3585
02:35:45,190 --> 02:35:42,560
backpack we have um

3586
02:35:45,830 --> 02:35:45,200
huge cases and yeah we're normally

3587
02:35:49,190 --> 02:35:45,840
carrying

3588
02:35:50,630 --> 02:35:49,200
bags and backpacks um amongst

3589
02:35:53,270 --> 02:35:50,640
everything else and we'll set them in

3590
02:35:55,030 --> 02:35:53,280
different locations as we move around

3591
02:35:57,030 --> 02:35:55,040
because it won't all fit in one or

3592
02:36:00,389 --> 02:35:57,040
anywhere close to one

3593
02:36:03,830 --> 02:36:00,399
now uh we in in the

3594
02:36:07,190 --> 02:36:03,840
uh investigation that we did together

3595
02:36:10,230 --> 02:36:07,200
i noticed that you would lay out uh

3596
02:36:13,750 --> 02:36:10,240
multiple meters around the room right

3597
02:36:16,070 --> 02:36:13,760
it's not just one and sometimes

3598
02:36:17,830 --> 02:36:16,080
i watch this with my own eyes sometimes

3599
02:36:19,510 --> 02:36:17,840
they would all go off at the same time

3600
02:36:22,790 --> 02:36:19,520
it's a christmas tree

3601
02:36:25,750 --> 02:36:22,800
and then other times you'll see them uh

3602
02:36:27,590 --> 02:36:25,760
light up sequentially like something is

3603
02:36:29,670 --> 02:36:27,600
moving around the room

3604
02:36:31,270 --> 02:36:29,680
correct that's absolutely correct and

3605
02:36:33,830 --> 02:36:31,280
that's why they're spaced

3606
02:36:35,429 --> 02:36:33,840
is so that you can detect if something

3607
02:36:36,630 --> 02:36:35,439
is moving and it's moving from one

3608
02:36:38,389 --> 02:36:36,640
location to another

3609
02:36:40,389 --> 02:36:38,399
it also will tell you which way it's

3610
02:36:44,070 --> 02:36:40,399
moving in which direction it's heading

3611
02:36:44,389 --> 02:36:44,080
if they all go off at once normally that

3612
02:36:46,830 --> 02:36:44,399
will

3613
02:36:48,309 --> 02:36:46,840
indicate that it's probably something

3614
02:36:50,389 --> 02:36:48,319
unparanormal

3615
02:36:51,670 --> 02:36:50,399
but then again you've got the other side

3616
02:36:54,710 --> 02:36:51,680
of the coin where

3617
02:36:55,190 --> 02:36:54,720
the energy might be so intense by what's

3618
02:36:58,150 --> 02:36:55,200
being

3619
02:36:59,830 --> 02:36:58,160
put out that they will all go off but

3620
02:37:01,670 --> 02:36:59,840
most of the time when they all go off at

3621
02:37:03,910 --> 02:37:01,680
once it's probably something electrical

3622
02:37:05,349 --> 02:37:03,920
it's probably some interference that's

3623
02:37:07,830 --> 02:37:05,359
causing him to do that

3624
02:37:09,830 --> 02:37:07,840
when you can get one to go off when

3625
02:37:11,830 --> 02:37:09,840
there's multiple other meters

3626
02:37:13,670 --> 02:37:11,840
right next to it that's a better

3627
02:37:15,110 --> 02:37:13,680
indication that's paranormal because the

3628
02:37:17,349 --> 02:37:15,120
other two weren't affected

3629
02:37:18,150 --> 02:37:17,359
and the circuitry that's in them is

3630
02:37:20,950 --> 02:37:18,160
identical

3631
02:37:23,030 --> 02:37:20,960
well and we had uh that one night and

3632
02:37:26,389 --> 02:37:23,040
we're sitting there in the dark

3633
02:37:29,910 --> 02:37:26,399
and uh the applause started

3634
02:37:31,670 --> 02:37:29,920
somebody sang right and but all at the

3635
02:37:32,469 --> 02:37:31,680
same time and i'm sitting there and i

3636
02:37:35,830 --> 02:37:32,479
see

3637
02:37:38,790 --> 02:37:35,840
all of the meters go off spirit boxes

3638
02:37:40,070 --> 02:37:38,800
chat chanting right and it all happened

3639
02:37:43,110 --> 02:37:40,080
at the same time

3640
02:37:45,990 --> 02:37:43,120
and i almost wet myself

3641
02:37:47,349 --> 02:37:46,000
well you laugh but we all did the same

3642
02:37:49,990 --> 02:37:47,359
thing we all had that same

3643
02:37:50,710 --> 02:37:50,000
reaction no you're right because we're

3644
02:37:53,590 --> 02:37:50,720
in the dark

3645
02:37:55,990 --> 02:37:53,600
and then suddenly uh all of these meters

3646
02:38:00,389 --> 02:37:56,000
are going off in the spirit box and

3647
02:38:03,110 --> 02:38:00,399
it's graphic uh eq is is cranking off

3648
02:38:03,750 --> 02:38:03,120
that that was a a pretty spectacular

3649
02:38:07,190 --> 02:38:03,760
moment

3650
02:38:09,750 --> 02:38:07,200
uh for me it was for us too

3651
02:38:10,630 --> 02:38:09,760
and it was also because the singer was

3652
02:38:13,670 --> 02:38:10,640
there

3653
02:38:15,510 --> 02:38:13,680
to sing a song from the time frame they

3654
02:38:18,630 --> 02:38:15,520
were hoping to elicit

3655
02:38:21,349 --> 02:38:18,640
activity from she sang beautifully

3656
02:38:23,190 --> 02:38:21,359
and then directly as she finished yes it

3657
02:38:24,070 --> 02:38:23,200
all went off like you said the spirit

3658
02:38:26,309 --> 02:38:24,080
box was

3659
02:38:27,990 --> 02:38:26,319
was clapping or chattering the all the

3660
02:38:30,950 --> 02:38:28,000
emf meters were were

3661
02:38:32,070 --> 02:38:30,960
blinking and flashing so that makes it

3662
02:38:36,469 --> 02:38:32,080
more

3663
02:38:39,110 --> 02:38:36,479
paranormal because the event

3664
02:38:40,070 --> 02:38:39,120
that they were using to elicit that

3665
02:38:42,950 --> 02:38:40,080
behavior

3666
02:38:43,750 --> 02:38:42,960
seemed to work and then the instruments

3667
02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:43,760
showed

3668
02:38:48,309 --> 02:38:46,240
that there was something occurring that

3669
02:38:49,750 --> 02:38:48,319
was paranormal it was it's pretty funny

3670
02:38:50,630 --> 02:38:49,760
because there was like 10 of us in the

3671
02:38:52,870 --> 02:38:50,640
room

3672
02:38:53,830 --> 02:38:52,880
uh including you know we had what three

3673
02:38:56,950 --> 02:38:53,840
camera guys

3674
02:38:59,110 --> 02:38:56,960
and we had a sound guy with a boom mic

3675
02:39:01,020 --> 02:38:59,120
uh and then all of us but we all did the

3676
02:39:04,630 --> 02:39:01,030
same thing at the same time

3677
02:39:06,070 --> 02:39:04,640
[Laughter]

3678
02:39:09,190 --> 02:39:06,080
yeah it was pretty cool it was pretty

3679
02:39:12,150 --> 02:39:09,200
cool okay uh let's get to these images

3680
02:39:12,630 --> 02:39:12,160
the first one is called the gadsen ghost

3681
02:39:14,630 --> 02:39:12,640
and

3682
02:39:16,550 --> 02:39:14,640
i'm gonna let everybody know uh the

3683
02:39:19,110 --> 02:39:16,560
three are posted together

3684
02:39:19,990 --> 02:39:19,120
uh we are going in order that's the

3685
02:39:24,070 --> 02:39:20,000
first image

3686
02:39:27,429 --> 02:39:24,080
the gadsen ghost what's going on here

3687
02:39:30,309 --> 02:39:27,439
well we spent three days

3688
02:39:31,030 --> 02:39:30,319
four days three nights at the gadsden

3689
02:39:34,309 --> 02:39:31,040
hotel

3690
02:39:34,870 --> 02:39:34,319
here in southern arizona and they are

3691
02:39:38,550 --> 02:39:34,880
known

3692
02:39:41,190 --> 02:39:38,560
for having been haunted it's a it's an

3693
02:39:42,469 --> 02:39:41,200
old hotel with a absolutely beautiful

3694
02:39:46,309 --> 02:39:42,479
carved

3695
02:39:50,230 --> 02:39:46,319
lobby with these gold um

3696
02:39:52,389 --> 02:39:50,240
um peelers pillars that

3697
02:39:53,990 --> 02:39:52,399
go to this unbelievable ceiling it's

3698
02:39:56,790 --> 02:39:54,000
absolutely spectacular

3699
02:39:58,150 --> 02:39:56,800
but we stayed and they had redone floors

3700
02:39:59,830 --> 02:39:58,160
one and two

3701
02:40:01,750 --> 02:39:59,840
but we stayed on the third floor because

3702
02:40:03,990 --> 02:40:01,760
the most haunted room was there

3703
02:40:05,510 --> 02:40:04,000
of course we didn't have we didn't have

3704
02:40:09,270 --> 02:40:05,520
air conditioning we didn't have

3705
02:40:10,150 --> 02:40:09,280
but anyway the energy in that area was

3706
02:40:12,790 --> 02:40:10,160
so intense

3707
02:40:13,830 --> 02:40:12,800
that sheree and i found ourselves

3708
02:40:15,990 --> 02:40:13,840
arguing

3709
02:40:17,510 --> 02:40:16,000
and so finally i said to her after the

3710
02:40:19,429 --> 02:40:17,520
first day or two i'm like this has got

3711
02:40:22,309 --> 02:40:19,439
to stop let's just walk out of here

3712
02:40:24,150 --> 02:40:22,319
let's get some fresh air so we did so

3713
02:40:24,870 --> 02:40:24,160
we're just walking on the other side of

3714
02:40:27,510 --> 02:40:24,880
the street

3715
02:40:28,550 --> 02:40:27,520
from the hotel and cherie was snapping

3716
02:40:30,710 --> 02:40:28,560
pictures

3717
02:40:31,590 --> 02:40:30,720
and the picture that is there she

3718
02:40:35,030 --> 02:40:31,600
snapped

3719
02:40:38,630 --> 02:40:35,040
of it was a much farther shot from the

3720
02:40:39,590 --> 02:40:38,640
hotel but on the balcony something was

3721
02:40:42,469 --> 02:40:39,600
glowing

3722
02:40:44,309 --> 02:40:42,479
and i couldn't tell what it is so we

3723
02:40:48,070 --> 02:40:44,319
zoomed in

3724
02:40:49,349 --> 02:40:48,080
and that figure is standing on a balcony

3725
02:40:52,710 --> 02:40:49,359
which on a sunday night

3726
02:40:54,469 --> 02:40:52,720
is barred shut you can't even get to it

3727
02:40:56,150 --> 02:40:54,479
you can't even get to the floor to the

3728
02:40:59,269 --> 02:40:56,160
steps that go to it

3729
02:41:02,309 --> 02:40:59,279
no one is allowed up there yet that

3730
02:41:05,590 --> 02:41:02,319
figure was captured in the photo it

3731
02:41:08,710 --> 02:41:05,600
looks female definitely female

3732
02:41:12,070 --> 02:41:08,720
right and black hair some sort of

3733
02:41:12,950 --> 02:41:12,080
black spaghetti strap dress it looks

3734
02:41:14,870 --> 02:41:12,960
like it's wearing

3735
02:41:15,990 --> 02:41:14,880
yeah you can see the eyes you can see

3736
02:41:18,630 --> 02:41:16,000
those

3737
02:41:19,349 --> 02:41:18,640
facial structure hair curly long hair

3738
02:41:23,190 --> 02:41:19,359
yeah yeah

3739
02:41:26,389 --> 02:41:23,200
pretty incredible

3740
02:41:27,990 --> 02:41:26,399
but the icing on the cake is uh almost

3741
02:41:30,469 --> 02:41:28,000
fluorescent

3742
02:41:32,389 --> 02:41:30,479
right right that was the glow that i

3743
02:41:35,269 --> 02:41:32,399
caught in the original photo

3744
02:41:36,710 --> 02:41:35,279
and i said shari what is that and so we

3745
02:41:39,750 --> 02:41:36,720
we blew it up

3746
02:41:41,910 --> 02:41:39,760
and uh that's what it was yeah that's uh

3747
02:41:44,070 --> 02:41:41,920
that's a that's a ghost picture now

3748
02:41:45,190 --> 02:41:44,080
again this isn't flear this is a night

3749
02:41:49,510 --> 02:41:45,200
vision

3750
02:41:52,309 --> 02:41:49,520
this is outside facing back to the hotel

3751
02:41:53,030 --> 02:41:52,319
on the second floor correct that's

3752
02:41:55,110 --> 02:41:53,040
absolutely crazy

3753
02:41:56,389 --> 02:41:55,120
that's uh that's an incredible picture

3754
02:41:59,670 --> 02:41:56,399
it's uh

3755
02:42:00,309 --> 02:41:59,680
not well creepy because it's a glowing

3756
02:42:04,070 --> 02:42:00,319
green

3757
02:42:06,309 --> 02:42:04,080
ghost but also it's just a woman

3758
02:42:08,389 --> 02:42:06,319
standing there looking down onto the

3759
02:42:09,830 --> 02:42:08,399
street that's what it looks like to me

3760
02:42:11,750 --> 02:42:09,840
right well she's looking right at the

3761
02:42:12,230 --> 02:42:11,760
camera that was the scariest part like

3762
02:42:14,870 --> 02:42:12,240
she was

3763
02:42:16,550 --> 02:42:14,880
watching us yeah you know what you

3764
02:42:18,790 --> 02:42:16,560
squint your eyes a little bit

3765
02:42:21,510 --> 02:42:18,800
you got the chin you got the nose you've

3766
02:42:24,950 --> 02:42:21,520
got the eyes you've got the forehead

3767
02:42:27,110 --> 02:42:24,960
yeah yeah yeah maybe looking

3768
02:42:29,510 --> 02:42:27,120
directly back at you yeah that's pretty

3769
02:42:32,790 --> 02:42:29,520
cool that's a great pick

3770
02:42:36,150 --> 02:42:32,800
that's a great pick uh the next one

3771
02:42:39,670 --> 02:42:36,160
um is uh this one's called

3772
02:42:42,469 --> 02:42:39,680
uh leon why why leone

3773
02:42:43,990 --> 02:42:42,479
well because there was a woman in 1928

3774
02:42:46,230 --> 02:42:44,000
leone jensen

3775
02:42:47,190 --> 02:42:46,240
who actually committed suicide from the

3776
02:42:49,990 --> 02:42:47,200
roof

3777
02:42:52,070 --> 02:42:50,000
and she was a blonde-haired girl like i

3778
02:42:54,950 --> 02:42:52,080
said 1928 she was in her

3779
02:42:56,230 --> 02:42:54,960
20s i think or where was this taken the

3780
02:42:58,230 --> 02:42:56,240
roof of what

3781
02:42:59,429 --> 02:42:58,240
uh it was the hotel san carlos in

3782
02:43:02,070 --> 02:42:59,439
downtown phoenix

3783
02:43:03,910 --> 02:43:02,080
okay so she crawled up to the roof and

3784
02:43:05,510 --> 02:43:03,920
jumped committed suicide

3785
02:43:07,429 --> 02:43:05,520
now i've seen that that's right i've

3786
02:43:09,750 --> 02:43:07,439
seen photographs of this hotel i've

3787
02:43:13,590 --> 02:43:09,760
heard this story before

3788
02:43:15,910 --> 02:43:13,600
okay gotchu yeah that place is haunted

3789
02:43:17,190 --> 02:43:15,920
unbelievable uh unbelievable it looks

3790
02:43:19,910 --> 02:43:17,200
haunted first off

3791
02:43:21,429 --> 02:43:19,920
okay it it looks haunted how many

3792
02:43:23,750 --> 02:43:21,439
stories tall

3793
02:43:25,510 --> 02:43:23,760
it's seven yeah seven yeah right right

3794
02:43:26,950 --> 02:43:25,520
right right right and she went up to the

3795
02:43:29,670 --> 02:43:26,960
top and jumped off

3796
02:43:30,710 --> 02:43:29,680
correct right okay now tell us about

3797
02:43:33,670 --> 02:43:30,720
this picture

3798
02:43:34,070 --> 02:43:33,680
well cherie caught this on our second

3799
02:43:35,510 --> 02:43:34,080
time

3800
02:43:37,510 --> 02:43:35,520
investigating this was this was the

3801
02:43:38,790 --> 02:43:37,520
hotel i took sheree to for our very

3802
02:43:41,110 --> 02:43:38,800
first investigation

3803
02:43:41,990 --> 02:43:41,120
we've investigated that place over 50

3804
02:43:43,590 --> 02:43:42,000
times

3805
02:43:46,070 --> 02:43:43,600
because every time we went back we got

3806
02:43:48,950 --> 02:43:46,080
more and more stuff and it just kept

3807
02:43:50,630 --> 02:43:48,960
increasing this was like the second or

3808
02:43:53,349 --> 02:43:50,640
third time we were in there

3809
02:43:53,990 --> 02:43:53,359
cherie caught this on her video camera

3810
02:43:56,870 --> 02:43:54,000
and then

3811
02:43:59,190 --> 02:43:56,880
she also had a picture but on the video

3812
02:44:02,469 --> 02:43:59,200
camera you can see her standing

3813
02:44:03,990 --> 02:44:02,479
in the dark hallway that she's standing

3814
02:44:06,950 --> 02:44:04,000
and then you see her

3815
02:44:09,349 --> 02:44:06,960
walk off on the video this is just a

3816
02:44:12,550 --> 02:44:09,359
photo but it was a photo that we

3817
02:44:12,950 --> 02:44:12,560
we had of that area and she's standing

3818
02:44:15,670 --> 02:44:12,960
there

3819
02:44:17,790 --> 02:44:15,680
now if you look real closely the the

3820
02:44:19,269 --> 02:44:17,800
what she's wearing the dress looks about

3821
02:44:22,309 --> 02:44:19,279
1920s

3822
02:44:25,910 --> 02:44:22,319
um she matches leone's description

3823
02:44:29,190 --> 02:44:25,920
blonde haired young um so

3824
02:44:32,309 --> 02:44:29,200
there's just too many coins there to

3825
02:44:33,030 --> 02:44:32,319
to not um possibly think that that might

3826
02:44:36,309 --> 02:44:33,040
be her

3827
02:44:39,030 --> 02:44:36,319
now where in the hotel is this

3828
02:44:39,510 --> 02:44:39,040
this is in what is known as this ghost

3829
02:44:42,950 --> 02:44:39,520
lounge

3830
02:44:45,110 --> 02:44:42,960
old bar

3831
02:44:45,990 --> 02:44:45,120
of the hotel it's been abandoned it's

3832
02:44:48,389 --> 02:44:46,000
been abandoned for

3833
02:44:49,349 --> 02:44:48,399
probably the last i don't know 10 12

3834
02:44:53,670 --> 02:44:49,359
years

3835
02:44:55,910 --> 02:44:53,680
um but we were in there and um

3836
02:44:57,030 --> 02:44:55,920
that's what was captured so she's she's

3837
02:44:59,590 --> 02:44:57,040
in the bar

3838
02:45:02,150 --> 02:44:59,600
yeah i'm looking uh i'm looking at some

3839
02:45:05,110 --> 02:45:02,160
bar pictures here and i see the

3840
02:45:06,710 --> 02:45:05,120
i see the arch yep that's right where

3841
02:45:07,269 --> 02:45:06,720
she is she's in she's underneath the

3842
02:45:10,469 --> 02:45:07,279
arch

3843
02:45:12,870 --> 02:45:10,479
and uh and i see the bar here

3844
02:45:13,510 --> 02:45:12,880
so that's where this is and so the

3845
02:45:15,190 --> 02:45:13,520
picture was

3846
02:45:16,870 --> 02:45:15,200
you were down at the end of the bar or

3847
02:45:18,870 --> 02:45:16,880
where the bar would be

3848
02:45:20,790 --> 02:45:18,880
yeah if you go all the way across the

3849
02:45:23,269 --> 02:45:20,800
bar there's like a sitting room like a

3850
02:45:25,910 --> 02:45:23,279
lounge i see that we were in the lounge

3851
02:45:27,030 --> 02:45:25,920
and sheree took the picture and the

3852
02:45:28,710 --> 02:45:27,040
video

3853
02:45:30,870 --> 02:45:28,720
actually you caught her in the mirror

3854
02:45:34,630 --> 02:45:30,880
first yeah and then you spun around

3855
02:45:35,030 --> 02:45:34,640
right it's uh yeah i'm looking at so

3856
02:45:37,750 --> 02:45:35,040
many

3857
02:45:39,830 --> 02:45:37,760
that that arch is a is a pretty

3858
02:45:43,349 --> 02:45:39,840
significant part of the architecture

3859
02:45:45,830 --> 02:45:43,359
of the bar it is yes and uh

3860
02:45:46,870 --> 02:45:45,840
wow that's uh that's pretty incredible

3861
02:45:50,950 --> 02:45:46,880
now that i've seen

3862
02:45:53,030 --> 02:45:50,960
right right yeah you alter you

3863
02:45:55,269 --> 02:45:53,040
go look at the bar look at the arch and

3864
02:45:58,550 --> 02:45:55,279
then come back to this picture

3865
02:46:01,269 --> 02:45:58,560
um was again glowing

3866
02:46:01,830 --> 02:46:01,279
yep right and this is just a straight

3867
02:46:04,630 --> 02:46:01,840
image

3868
02:46:05,269 --> 02:46:04,640
this isn't night vision or any other

3869
02:46:07,670 --> 02:46:05,279
setting on

3870
02:46:08,710 --> 02:46:07,680
on the camera this is just a straight

3871
02:46:11,910 --> 02:46:08,720
photograph

3872
02:46:12,710 --> 02:46:11,920
correct that's actu actually just a cell

3873
02:46:19,510 --> 02:46:12,720
phone

3874
02:46:23,110 --> 02:46:19,520
and uh sheree did you see

3875
02:46:26,150 --> 02:46:23,120
did you did you see her standing there

3876
02:46:28,389 --> 02:46:26,160
no i do not because with your own eye

3877
02:46:29,349 --> 02:46:28,399
now with my own eyes i was looking on

3878
02:46:33,510 --> 02:46:29,359
the uh

3879
02:46:35,670 --> 02:46:33,520
my video and i i saw it on my video

3880
02:46:36,870 --> 02:46:35,680
and i'm like what the heck is that and

3881
02:46:38,469 --> 02:46:36,880
it moves

3882
02:46:40,870 --> 02:46:38,479
she showed in the mirror though which

3883
02:46:43,590 --> 02:46:40,880
was the weirdest part

3884
02:46:45,429 --> 02:46:43,600
which i see here too as well yeah that's

3885
02:46:47,269 --> 02:46:45,439
wild man

3886
02:46:49,349 --> 02:46:47,279
yeah that's wild especially everybody

3887
02:46:50,150 --> 02:46:49,359
just go and and look at the images of

3888
02:46:53,429 --> 02:46:50,160
the bar

3889
02:46:54,150 --> 02:46:53,439
area and the lounge at the the san

3890
02:46:56,550 --> 02:46:54,160
carlos

3891
02:46:58,309 --> 02:46:56,560
in in phoenix and you'll see exactly

3892
02:47:00,550 --> 02:46:58,319
where this picture was taken

3893
02:47:01,910 --> 02:47:00,560
yeah wow wow that's pretty cool that's

3894
02:47:05,349 --> 02:47:01,920
that's a great image

3895
02:47:08,469 --> 02:47:05,359
okay best for last all right now

3896
02:47:11,110 --> 02:47:08,479
um uh

3897
02:47:11,510 --> 02:47:11,120
this next image now i had to look at

3898
02:47:18,230 --> 02:47:11,520
this

3899
02:47:22,150 --> 02:47:18,240
uh lind or li

3900
02:47:25,190 --> 02:47:22,160
li lied and

3901
02:47:26,950 --> 02:47:25,200
this is when people hear about uh

3902
02:47:30,870 --> 02:47:26,960
pictures of ghost

3903
02:47:32,950 --> 02:47:30,880
this is what you want to see right right

3904
02:47:35,110 --> 02:47:32,960
this is what you want to see okay so

3905
02:47:37,510 --> 02:47:35,120
where was this taken

3906
02:47:38,950 --> 02:47:37,520
uh obviously it's from outside uh

3907
02:47:42,710 --> 02:47:38,960
shooting the house

3908
02:47:46,550 --> 02:47:42,720
set us up for this okay well the house

3909
02:47:49,349 --> 02:47:46,560
that this is is the bel air house

3910
02:47:52,070 --> 02:47:49,359
in bel air ohio and if you're not

3911
02:47:54,870 --> 02:47:52,080
familiar with the bel air house

3912
02:47:57,750 --> 02:47:54,880
or kristen lee or any of the

3913
02:47:59,990 --> 02:47:57,760
unbelievable paranormal experiences that

3914
02:48:03,269 --> 02:48:00,000
had occurred to her there

3915
02:48:04,150 --> 02:48:03,279
um it's got a fascinating history well

3916
02:48:07,030 --> 02:48:04,160
sheree and i

3917
02:48:09,510 --> 02:48:07,040
actually won a weekend there through a

3918
02:48:12,230 --> 02:48:09,520
trivia contest kristen did

3919
02:48:13,190 --> 02:48:12,240
and so we spent uh three days two nights

3920
02:48:15,750 --> 02:48:13,200
there

3921
02:48:16,469 --> 02:48:15,760
and this was a photograph that i had

3922
02:48:20,870 --> 02:48:16,479
taken

3923
02:48:22,710 --> 02:48:20,880
from the front yard towards the house

3924
02:48:23,910 --> 02:48:22,720
and then we noticed this thing in the

3925
02:48:26,950 --> 02:48:23,920
window

3926
02:48:29,190 --> 02:48:26,960
and that's the photo

3927
02:48:30,070 --> 02:48:29,200
and it looks like a woman and probably

3928
02:48:33,590 --> 02:48:30,080
uh

3929
02:48:36,710 --> 02:48:33,600
early 1900s late 1800s dress

3930
02:48:39,269 --> 02:48:36,720
the hair is up it looks like a fluffy

3931
02:48:40,150 --> 02:48:39,279
dress yeah you can see the hair the face

3932
02:48:43,269 --> 02:48:40,160
the chin

3933
02:48:46,469 --> 02:48:43,279
the dress all silhouetted against the

3934
02:48:48,630 --> 02:48:46,479
the inside of the window frame now um

3935
02:48:49,590 --> 02:48:48,640
i'm i'm looking at the front of the bel

3936
02:48:53,670 --> 02:48:49,600
air house

3937
02:48:57,110 --> 02:48:53,680
here what this is on the far left

3938
02:49:09,580 --> 02:48:57,120
it is on the far left correct

3939
02:49:13,750 --> 02:49:11,510
[Music]

3940
02:49:14,870 --> 02:49:13,760
got you the other half of the window was

3941
02:49:16,469 --> 02:49:14,880
hidden by the pillar

3942
02:49:18,070 --> 02:49:16,479
which is there in the front of the house

3943
02:49:21,429 --> 02:49:18,080
i see it now

3944
02:49:23,590 --> 02:49:21,439
um wow so that's like the would that be

3945
02:49:26,710 --> 02:49:23,600
the front room

3946
02:49:28,870 --> 02:49:26,720
that would be yeah like a like a

3947
02:49:30,870 --> 02:49:28,880
almost a dining room area just before

3948
02:49:31,269 --> 02:49:30,880
you go upstairs to the second floor and

3949
02:49:33,830 --> 02:49:31,279
then

3950
02:49:35,510 --> 02:49:33,840
the third floor for the stairs are now

3951
02:49:38,710 --> 02:49:35,520
you know

3952
02:49:39,349 --> 02:49:38,720
a long history right yep yep this place

3953
02:49:42,550 --> 02:49:39,359
is

3954
02:49:45,910 --> 02:49:42,560
of uh

3955
02:49:50,630 --> 02:49:45,920
hunts and investigations have uh gone

3956
02:49:53,670 --> 02:49:50,640
on here and uh they had a fire there

3957
02:49:55,990 --> 02:49:53,680
uh-huh they did

3958
02:49:57,510 --> 02:49:56,000
yes i'm looking at it right here but

3959
02:50:00,150 --> 02:49:57,520
anyway back to

3960
02:50:01,190 --> 02:50:00,160
uh the house itself so from the front

3961
02:50:03,750 --> 02:50:01,200
porch

3962
02:50:05,349 --> 02:50:03,760
there's the uh the front door and then

3963
02:50:06,790 --> 02:50:05,359
there's the pillars which you can see

3964
02:50:10,070 --> 02:50:06,800
they're brick pillars

3965
02:50:13,590 --> 02:50:10,080
and then she's right here

3966
02:50:16,630 --> 02:50:13,600
on the uh uh how do i describe this

3967
02:50:18,630 --> 02:50:16,640
the the left side of the window because

3968
02:50:22,070 --> 02:50:18,640
the window's double wide

3969
02:50:25,670 --> 02:50:22,080
correct yep what year did you uh take

3970
02:50:27,030 --> 02:50:25,680
this oh my gosh that's a good question

3971
02:50:32,150 --> 02:50:27,040
that would have been probably

3972
02:50:34,870 --> 02:50:32,160
20 16

3973
02:50:35,910 --> 02:50:34,880
15. i guess i don't know that's a good

3974
02:50:38,309 --> 02:50:35,920
question

3975
02:50:39,670 --> 02:50:38,319
how do we know because this photograph

3976
02:50:40,870 --> 02:50:39,680
is so perfect

3977
02:50:42,550 --> 02:50:40,880
how did we know that there wasn't

3978
02:50:43,990 --> 02:50:42,560
somebody in the house were you in there

3979
02:50:47,269 --> 02:50:44,000
previously

3980
02:50:49,110 --> 02:50:47,279
do you know that the house was empty yes

3981
02:50:51,269 --> 02:50:49,120
it was just uh it was you and i and it

3982
02:50:51,830 --> 02:50:51,279
was jason and uh there were only four of

3983
02:50:53,269 --> 02:50:51,840
us

3984
02:50:55,910 --> 02:50:53,279
we were all outside when i took the

3985
02:50:58,950 --> 02:50:55,920
photo this is uh

3986
02:51:02,469 --> 02:50:58,960
about as perfect as it gets right yeah

3987
02:51:04,950 --> 02:51:02,479
it's a great shot now um uh

3988
02:51:06,150 --> 02:51:04,960
this reminds me a little bit of my

3989
02:51:09,750 --> 02:51:06,160
little uh

3990
02:51:11,190 --> 02:51:09,760
sighting that i had uh 25 30 years ago

3991
02:51:14,150 --> 02:51:11,200
in hollywood

3992
02:51:16,710 --> 02:51:14,160
where what i saw was pulling the

3993
02:51:19,910 --> 02:51:16,720
curtains to the side

3994
02:51:21,830 --> 02:51:19,920
is that what's happening here that i

3995
02:51:25,030 --> 02:51:21,840
can't remember if i think her hand

3996
02:51:26,710 --> 02:51:25,040
is in the photo i don't remember it

3997
02:51:29,750 --> 02:51:26,720
looks like the curtains are at an

3998
02:51:31,110 --> 02:51:29,760
angle then it very well could be the and

3999
02:51:33,910 --> 02:51:31,120
yes there were curtains

4000
02:51:36,309 --> 02:51:33,920
and they do look adjusted so whether

4001
02:51:39,190 --> 02:51:36,319
she's pulling them or not i'm not sure

4002
02:51:39,990 --> 02:51:39,200
but uh you can see her hand you can see

4003
02:51:42,389 --> 02:51:40,000
everything you can

4004
02:51:44,070 --> 02:51:42,399
yeah like it takes very little

4005
02:51:46,790 --> 02:51:44,080
imagination to go oh my god that's a

4006
02:51:49,750 --> 02:51:46,800
woman in a dress standing by the window

4007
02:51:51,190 --> 02:51:49,760
yeah i uh i enlarged this today i'm

4008
02:51:54,550 --> 02:51:51,200
gonna enlarge it again

4009
02:51:57,750 --> 02:51:54,560
a second time um you don't see

4010
02:51:59,510 --> 02:51:57,760
the top of her head right but right the

4011
02:52:01,990 --> 02:51:59,520
rest of her face

4012
02:52:03,510 --> 02:52:02,000
is right there with with her hair and

4013
02:52:07,670 --> 02:52:03,520
the dress

4014
02:52:11,110 --> 02:52:07,680
that's what else could it be

4015
02:52:15,190 --> 02:52:11,120
i don't know right right right could be

4016
02:52:15,910 --> 02:52:15,200
peridot yeah i mean there is a chance of

4017
02:52:19,190 --> 02:52:15,920
that

4018
02:52:20,230 --> 02:52:19,200
as there are tree branches reflecting in

4019
02:52:23,429 --> 02:52:20,240
the window so

4020
02:52:26,630 --> 02:52:23,439
that is a possibility but

4021
02:52:30,550 --> 02:52:26,640
it's i don't know i i

4022
02:52:33,910 --> 02:52:30,560
i would not say that because it's

4023
02:52:37,030 --> 02:52:33,920
like you said it it the the image is

4024
02:52:38,790 --> 02:52:37,040
pretty set in what it but that's what

4025
02:52:40,950 --> 02:52:38,800
paraguay is so who knows but

4026
02:52:42,630 --> 02:52:40,960
what okay look i'm looking at the front

4027
02:52:45,990 --> 02:52:42,640
of the house

4028
02:52:49,990 --> 02:52:46,000
what tree could it be there isn't

4029
02:52:52,870 --> 02:52:50,000
there isn't a tree in front of the house

4030
02:52:53,349 --> 02:52:52,880
yeah there is one on the left side left

4031
02:52:55,910 --> 02:52:53,359
side

4032
02:52:57,190 --> 02:52:55,920
yeah but that's that's way out there

4033
02:52:59,990 --> 02:52:57,200
that's way off of the house

4034
02:53:01,429 --> 02:53:00,000
it's a ways away it's probably 40 30

4035
02:53:04,230 --> 02:53:01,439
feet away yeah

4036
02:53:07,110 --> 02:53:04,240
yeah no i don't uh i would love to say i

4037
02:53:10,150 --> 02:53:07,120
would like to debunk this right now

4038
02:53:13,269 --> 02:53:10,160
but that's a ghost yeah

4039
02:53:16,309 --> 02:53:13,279
that is that's what we thought yes

4040
02:53:18,469 --> 02:53:16,319
is that the full spectrum um

4041
02:53:19,910 --> 02:53:18,479
it was taken with a full spectrum yeah

4042
02:53:22,230 --> 02:53:19,920
what does that mean

4043
02:53:23,750 --> 02:53:22,240
a full spectrum camera it shows all

4044
02:53:25,990 --> 02:53:23,760
light sources so

4045
02:53:27,190 --> 02:53:26,000
visible light is what your eyes see

4046
02:53:29,990 --> 02:53:27,200
infrared

4047
02:53:30,950 --> 02:53:30,000
um is the second light source and then

4048
02:53:33,670 --> 02:53:30,960
ultraviolet

4049
02:53:35,510 --> 02:53:33,680
is the third a full spectrum camo lets

4050
02:53:37,510 --> 02:53:35,520
in all three light sources

4051
02:53:38,870 --> 02:53:37,520
so it allows you to see things the human

4052
02:53:43,269 --> 02:53:38,880
eye can't right

4053
02:53:47,750 --> 02:53:47,349
possibly okay the face is a face that's

4054
02:53:57,910 --> 02:53:47,760
not

4055
02:53:59,910 --> 02:53:57,920
the second half down below you know that

4056
02:54:02,870 --> 02:53:59,920
i'm backing up and kind of squinting my

4057
02:54:04,710 --> 02:54:02,880
eyes a little bit it looks like there

4058
02:54:07,429 --> 02:54:04,720
could be a couple of tree branches in

4059
02:54:10,950 --> 02:54:07,439
the top part uh reflecting in

4060
02:54:13,349 --> 02:54:10,960
but the bottom half that's a dress uh

4061
02:54:15,110 --> 02:54:13,359
that is definitely a fig no that's

4062
02:54:17,349 --> 02:54:15,120
that's that

4063
02:54:19,429 --> 02:54:17,359
that's a ghost man that's a full-bodied

4064
02:54:21,830 --> 02:54:19,439
full real deal

4065
02:54:22,950 --> 02:54:21,840
yeah and it's it's like this grayish

4066
02:54:25,190 --> 02:54:22,960
color too

4067
02:54:26,230 --> 02:54:25,200
and it you know it's like almost an

4068
02:54:29,830 --> 02:54:26,240
absence of color

4069
02:54:30,950 --> 02:54:29,840
like a mist formation that's a great

4070
02:54:34,469 --> 02:54:30,960
that's a great shot

4071
02:54:35,590 --> 02:54:34,479
who took this i did you did sheree were

4072
02:54:39,429 --> 02:54:35,600
you there

4073
02:54:41,910 --> 02:54:39,439
i was there with uh tony were outside

4074
02:54:44,070 --> 02:54:41,920
yeah what did you when you were just

4075
02:54:45,830 --> 02:54:44,080
taking a picture of the house

4076
02:54:47,110 --> 02:54:45,840
she was videotaped yeah i was just

4077
02:54:49,110 --> 02:54:47,120
taking pictures of the

4078
02:54:50,870 --> 02:54:49,120
of the house we always take pictures of

4079
02:54:52,469 --> 02:54:50,880
the windows just for that reason because

4080
02:54:54,790 --> 02:54:52,479
we have caught stuff before

4081
02:54:55,830 --> 02:54:54,800
right matter of fact on the queen mary

4082
02:54:57,429 --> 02:54:55,840
sheree caught

4083
02:54:59,910 --> 02:54:57,439
something in one of the windows which

4084
02:55:02,389 --> 02:54:59,920
was really cool

4085
02:55:04,469 --> 02:55:02,399
but we do that almost every location but

4086
02:55:06,870 --> 02:55:04,479
you were videotaping the house

4087
02:55:08,710 --> 02:55:06,880
and i was taking pictures this is uh

4088
02:55:10,950 --> 02:55:08,720
that's incredible that's incredible

4089
02:55:12,389 --> 02:55:10,960
it's uh what a great night on the show

4090
02:55:15,349 --> 02:55:12,399
oh i wanted to say

4091
02:55:17,190 --> 02:55:15,359
one thing um going back to our queen

4092
02:55:20,070 --> 02:55:17,200
mary experience

4093
02:55:20,950 --> 02:55:20,080
um for those that haven't been on that

4094
02:55:29,590 --> 02:55:20,960
boat

4095
02:55:31,510 --> 02:55:29,600
we were in the middle of the pandemic

4096
02:55:33,030 --> 02:55:31,520
got full covet testing just to get on

4097
02:55:36,550 --> 02:55:33,040
the boat um

4098
02:55:40,150 --> 02:55:36,560
there was nobody there but

4099
02:55:42,710 --> 02:55:40,160
us we had the entire ship to ourselves

4100
02:55:45,110 --> 02:55:42,720
the parking lot out front that holds

4101
02:55:48,790 --> 02:55:45,120
like 5 000 cars

4102
02:55:52,230 --> 02:55:48,800
no joke is empty

4103
02:55:53,349 --> 02:55:52,240
right and so the experience of being

4104
02:55:55,349 --> 02:55:53,359
there and i've been down there many

4105
02:55:58,790 --> 02:55:55,359
times to the queen mary

4106
02:56:01,510 --> 02:55:58,800
was the silence there was no

4107
02:56:02,550 --> 02:56:01,520
no outside standing next to this

4108
02:56:05,190 --> 02:56:02,560
majestic

4109
02:56:05,590 --> 02:56:05,200
ocean liner you could hear a pin drop

4110
02:56:09,910 --> 02:56:05,600
right

4111
02:56:12,630 --> 02:56:09,920
we were alone walking onto the ship

4112
02:56:13,750 --> 02:56:12,640
once you went through like that airlock

4113
02:56:17,349 --> 02:56:13,760
right and we were

4114
02:56:18,790 --> 02:56:17,359
there the silence

4115
02:56:20,389 --> 02:56:18,800
because everything's carpeted

4116
02:56:22,710 --> 02:56:20,399
everything's wood

4117
02:56:23,910 --> 02:56:22,720
uh you know what i mean everything is

4118
02:56:27,510 --> 02:56:23,920
sound deadened

4119
02:56:30,469 --> 02:56:27,520
it is completely quiet

4120
02:56:32,389 --> 02:56:30,479
you could not it was it was an eerie

4121
02:56:35,750 --> 02:56:32,399
part of our investigation

4122
02:56:38,630 --> 02:56:35,760
knowing how alone we were

4123
02:56:39,510 --> 02:56:38,640
and then to hear things start to happen

4124
02:56:41,349 --> 02:56:39,520
there

4125
02:56:43,190 --> 02:56:41,359
when you know you're walking right you

4126
02:56:46,790 --> 02:56:43,200
don't hear anything

4127
02:56:51,429 --> 02:56:46,800
it's quiet man it's disturbingly

4128
02:56:53,830 --> 02:56:51,439
quiet and then we started to hear things

4129
02:56:55,190 --> 02:56:53,840
that was um and i need people to

4130
02:56:56,950 --> 02:56:55,200
understand that they've been

4131
02:56:59,269 --> 02:56:56,960
to the queen mary where you've got

4132
02:57:00,950 --> 02:56:59,279
people you've got crowds outside you've

4133
02:57:02,790 --> 02:57:00,960
got people on board there's things

4134
02:57:03,269 --> 02:57:02,800
there's action there's talking there's

4135
02:57:06,150 --> 02:57:03,279
this

4136
02:57:07,110 --> 02:57:06,160
when we were there it was dead not

4137
02:57:10,389 --> 02:57:07,120
silent

4138
02:57:11,990 --> 02:57:10,399
completely eerily quiet until things

4139
02:57:13,910 --> 02:57:12,000
started to show themselves

4140
02:57:16,070 --> 02:57:13,920
yeah and that's a perfect description is

4141
02:57:18,790 --> 02:57:16,080
because that it was so silent

4142
02:57:21,429 --> 02:57:18,800
it was a little unnerving it was we had

4143
02:57:23,429 --> 02:57:21,439
been on the boat many times before

4144
02:57:25,910 --> 02:57:23,439
walking the hallways man walking the

4145
02:57:28,469 --> 02:57:25,920
hallway sheree thank you for saying that

4146
02:57:30,150 --> 02:57:28,479
walking those hallways in the silence

4147
02:57:31,590 --> 02:57:30,160
because you're looking ahead like a

4148
02:57:34,070 --> 02:57:31,600
thousand feet

4149
02:57:35,990 --> 02:57:34,080
of hallway and you're walking and you

4150
02:57:39,190 --> 02:57:36,000
can hear your heartbeat

4151
02:57:40,550 --> 02:57:39,200
you can hear your breath right it was

4152
02:57:43,670 --> 02:57:40,560
that it was that quiet

4153
02:57:45,510 --> 02:57:43,680
plus every door was open which

4154
02:57:46,950 --> 02:57:45,520
never happens if you're on it when it's

4155
02:57:47,990 --> 02:57:46,960
open because people are in the rooms the

4156
02:57:49,590 --> 02:57:48,000
doors are shut

4157
02:57:52,469 --> 02:57:49,600
you had no idea what you were going to

4158
02:57:55,030 --> 02:57:52,479
see in any room that you kept

4159
02:57:56,710 --> 02:57:55,040
i was i filmed all of that stuff man i

4160
02:57:59,190 --> 02:57:56,720
got it all my i was

4161
02:58:01,190 --> 02:57:59,200
going into rooms uh people had to come

4162
02:58:04,469 --> 02:58:01,200
back and grab me come on church

4163
02:58:07,429 --> 02:58:04,479
come on but i wanted i it was it was uh

4164
02:58:09,590 --> 02:58:07,439
it was amazing for us to have that very

4165
02:58:10,389 --> 02:58:09,600
singular experience it'll never happen

4166
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again

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uh it would take another pandemic to

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have

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long beach shut down uh right it was

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incredible

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you guys it was a once in a lifetime

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experience no doubt about it i am so

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glad that i was invited

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to come down and hang out with you guys

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02:58:28,469 --> 02:58:25,680
what a great show tonight

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02:58:29,510 --> 02:58:28,479
thank you so much your show airs on

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monday

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02:58:33,349 --> 02:58:31,279
how often do you guys go out and do

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investigations and get that up on the

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02:58:36,870 --> 02:58:34,160
site and can

4181
02:58:38,790 --> 02:58:36,880
somebody contact you if they want to go

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02:58:41,269 --> 02:58:38,800
out and do an investigation

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02:58:43,429 --> 02:58:41,279
sure they can um we do our show every

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02:58:46,630 --> 02:58:43,439
monday night we go investigating

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02:58:49,990 --> 02:58:46,640
every chance we get

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02:58:53,750 --> 02:58:50,000
somebody wants to contact us facebook

4187
02:58:56,590 --> 02:58:53,760
entity voices paranormal investigations

4188
02:58:57,910 --> 02:58:56,600
they can contact me at contact

4189
02:58:59,429 --> 02:58:57,920
entityvoices.com

4190
02:59:01,110 --> 02:58:59,439
if you have questions we'll be happy to

4191
02:59:01,750 --> 02:59:01,120
answer them if you're looking for advice

4192
02:59:03,910 --> 02:59:01,760
about

4193
02:59:06,070 --> 02:59:03,920
what equipment to buy what's good what's

4194
02:59:08,150 --> 02:59:06,080
not we'll be happy to give our opinion

4195
02:59:09,349 --> 02:59:08,160
um we've got multiple sites that we can

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02:59:11,670 --> 02:59:09,359
be contacted

4197
02:59:13,750 --> 02:59:11,680
through including the haunted hospital

4198
02:59:14,710 --> 02:59:13,760
so real easy to get a hold of us of any

4199
02:59:16,790 --> 02:59:14,720
of those connections

4200
02:59:18,150 --> 02:59:16,800
thank you so much tony thank you sheree

4201
02:59:20,070 --> 02:59:18,160
what a great show tonight

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02:59:21,429 --> 02:59:20,080
i look forward to the next time you i

4203
02:59:23,349 --> 02:59:21,439
just saw in twitter

4204
02:59:24,870 --> 02:59:23,359
we need we need overtime for the

4205
02:59:27,110 --> 02:59:24,880
overtime we need

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02:59:28,150 --> 02:59:27,120
we need fade to black after show thank

4207
02:59:29,830 --> 02:59:28,160
you guys so much

4208
02:59:31,510 --> 02:59:29,840
what a great show tonight thank you

4209
02:59:35,030 --> 02:59:31,520
jimmy this is great again

4210
02:59:37,830 --> 02:59:35,040
and and be safe out there okay

4211
02:59:40,110 --> 02:59:37,840
tony and good night what a great show

4212
02:59:43,110 --> 02:59:40,120
tonight tony and cherie rathman

4213
02:59:44,230 --> 02:59:43,120
entityvoices.com facebook twitter it's

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02:59:45,830 --> 02:59:44,240
all there

4215
02:59:48,150 --> 02:59:45,840
what a great show tonight we just went

4216
02:59:49,830 --> 02:59:48,160
bumper to bumper i have got to get out

4217
02:59:52,550 --> 02:59:49,840
of here before the network

4218
02:59:54,389 --> 02:59:52,560
cuts me off beta black's executive

4219
02:59:56,630 --> 02:59:54,399
producer is rita kumarian shows produced

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02:59:58,790 --> 02:59:56,640
by hilton j palm renee dennis and kevin

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03:00:01,190 --> 02:59:58,800
announcers are steve harder gene vitello

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03:00:03,870 --> 03:00:01,200
mark d kovar webmaster through the geek

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03:00:05,269 --> 03:00:03,880
music doug aldridge intro spaceboy

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03:00:07,269 --> 03:00:05,279
spaceboymusic.com

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paid to black is produced by kjcr for

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the game changer networks indication is

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kgra

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the planet this broadcast owned a

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copyrighted 2021 by fade to black in the

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03:00:17,910 --> 03:00:16,080
game changer network inc

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03:00:19,429 --> 03:00:17,920
it cannot be re-broadcast downloaded

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03:00:20,389 --> 03:00:19,439
copied or used anywhere in the known

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03:00:21,990 --> 03:00:20,399
universe

4234
03:00:23,429 --> 03:00:22,000
without written permission from fade to

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03:00:24,630 --> 03:00:23,439
block of the game changer network i'm

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03:00:27,349 --> 03:00:24,640
your host jimmy church

4237
03:00:30,230 --> 03:00:27,359
tomorrow night well tomorrow you've got

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03:00:32,630 --> 03:00:30,240
to watch the rover landing on mars

4239
03:00:33,349 --> 03:00:32,640
after that tomorrow night fade to black

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03:00:35,910 --> 03:00:33,359
fader night

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03:00:37,830 --> 03:00:35,920
open lines all night long i'm yours

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03:00:38,150 --> 03:00:37,840
jimmy church i'll see everybody tomorrow

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be